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I am quite suprised actually that quite a lot here do not do the really high fat with some avoiding fat on meat and not having very much cream butter cheese or full fat milk some people can't eat or simply don't like full fat stuff
I have heard it said on the forum by the purists that you can't do low carb without doing high fat but moderate fat is what many seem to do. If your BG levels are what you want and you feel well however you do it is the right way
 
AnnieC said:
In view of what has been said about fat in the newspaper and on TV today how much saturated fat would you eat in a day
We know that low carb and higher fat lowers BG but do we ever wonder if a long term high fat diet is good or bad for the rest of our body and organs
My consumption of saturated fat is quite low in a day I have eggs and cheese but not every day a little butter on vegetables and sometimes some cream on my fruit but I never eat red meat
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AnnieC said:
I am quite suprised actually that quite a lot here do not do the really high fat with some avoiding fat on meat and not having very much cream butter cheese or full fat milk some people can't eat or simply don't like full fat stuff
I have heard it said on the forum by the purists that you can't do low carb without doing high fat but moderate fat is what many seem to do. If your BG levels are what you want and you feel well however you do it is the right way
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Annie these 2 posts of yours seem to contradict each other. In the first one you ask how much fat we eat 'in view of what has been said on TV today" You ask if high fat is good for us long term. I took this to mean would we be changing anything now we've heard the news?

Then you seem to be trying to justify your own level of fat consumption by saying, "Oh others don't do high fat here! Eat so that you feel well" Have you considered the long term effects of not eating high fat? You have always been insistent that you already do what is right for you, so I don't really understand what the thread is meant to achieve. If you are having the correct diet for you (and I believe you are) why does it matter that others do or don't do high fat?


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if you normal protein and low carb ....and want to maintain your current weight, you have to replace the carb energy with fat..
there is no other way of doing it
 
jack412 said:
if you normal protein and low carb ....and want to maintain your current weight, you have to replace the carb energy with fat..
there is no other way of doing it
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Quite.......or else you could lose too much weight and end up worrying about that constantly......
 
AnnieC said:
I am quite suprised actually that quite a lot here do not do the really high fat with some avoiding fat on meat and not having very much cream butter cheese or full fat milk some people can't eat or simply don't like full fat stuff
I have heard it said on the forum by the purists that you can't do low carb without doing high fat but moderate fat is what many seem to do. If your BG levels are what you want and you feel well however you do it is the right way
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I think we are getting confused again with terminology. Many here eat a moderate amount of food but with a full fat content. Nobody is suggesting anybody eat "really high fat" that you mention. Also, if I choose to eat high fat, it doesn't mean vast amounts, it just means I don't eat "low fat" products. Of course, tastes will vary and we are all guided by BG levels but there is no need to avoid any food with a high fat content. It's the carbs that raise our BG numbers.
 
i really dont get what this topic is about annie,,you eat your own way for u and your sugars are good so why u bothered about how much fat others eat if you already eat the fats that you say are right for you and wouldnt change that and the amount others eat is right for them? you saying we have to eat like you or its no gud?
 
Low fat due to most of Pancreas removed due to surgery, small remaining part now dysfunctional. However, moderation is good. I wish I was my cat!
 
zand said:
Annie these 2 posts of yours seem to contradict each other. In the first one you ask how much fat we eat 'in view of what has been said on TV today" You ask if high fat is good for us long term. I took this to mean would we be changing anything now we've heard the news?

Then you seem to be trying to justify your own level of fat consumption by saying, "Oh others don't do high fat here! Eat so that you feel well" Have you considered the long term effects of not eating high fat? You have always been insistent that you already do what is right for you, so I don't really understand what the thread is meant to achieve. If you are having the correct diet for you (and I believe you are) why does it matter that others do or don't do high fat?
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Because of what was said today I asked the simple question as to how much fat members eat as a matter of interest to others especially newbies who hearing todays news probably don't really know what a good level of fat is so seeing examples of what others eat can be a help to them to decide and most people answered this by saying what they eat The question about the long term effects are something i am sure we may have wondered about simply because it is as yet unknown but it did not mean were people going to change anything .I did not actually say... Oh others don't do high fat here...I said I was suprised that quite a lot only do moderate fat I had expected more doing high fat but whatever people are happy doing can only be good and shows us how differently people tweak it to suit them
I certainly don't have to justify what fat I eat but by saying how I eat was just the same as the others said they did in their answers the question
 
Simon84 said:
i really dont get what this topic is about annie,,you eat your own way for u and your sugars are good so why u bothered about how much fat others eat if you already eat the fats that you say are right for you and wouldnt change that and the amount others eat is right for them? you saying we have to eat like you or its no gud?
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It wasn't about me it was so people especially newbies could have a guide as to what level of fats others eat if they are not sure about it and that could help them
 
AnnieC said:
Because of what was said today I asked the simple question as to how much fat members eat as a matter of interest to others especially newbies who hearing todays news probably don't really know what a good level of fat is so seeing examples of what others eat can be a help to them to decide and most people answered this by saying what they eat The question about the long term effects are something i am sure we may have wondered about simply because it is as yet unknown but it did not mean were people going to change anything .I did not actually say... Oh others don't do high fat here...I said I was suprised that quite a lot only do moderate fat I had expected more doing high fat but whatever people are happy doing can only be good and shows us how differently people tweak it to suit them
I certainly don't have to justify what fat I eat but by saying how I eat was just the same as the others said they did in their answers the question
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As a newbie didn't you tweak your diet to suit you? Don't you think others will do the same?

Unfortunately Annie my post wasn't complete because it was edited by a moderator. It doesn't make complete sense without the censored sentence. C'est la vie.
 
Simon84 said:
i really dont get what this topic is about annie,,you eat your own way for u and your sugars are good so why u bothered about how much fat others eat if you already eat the fats that you say are right for you and wouldnt change that and the amount others eat is right for them? you saying we have to eat like you or its no gud?
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Simon, if you look Annie has posted this thread in the Ask a Question section of the forum which is relevant to what she is asking, we often get these sort of threads where members may ask each other how many carbs everyone is eating or what their days meals have consisted of for example, no one is forced to reply if they don't want to and can skip by the thread if they don't want to participate, also I don't see where Annie says that we have to eat the same way that she does.
 
I started to enjoy butter,cream,cheese,on the LCHF way of eating I lost weight and LDL went down from2.5 to 2.
Unfortunatly I have gall stones with no problems before and had a bad attack of pancreatitas due to a gall stone moving.
I was told it could have been due to weight loss.
Im waiting to have my gall bladder removed and been advised by my Dr not to have fat.
So I would say beware of fat if you have gall stones,and most older people have.
 
AnnieC said:
It wasn't about me it was so people especially newbies could have a guide as to what level of fats others eat if they are not sure about it and that could help them
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Hi Annie. My view is that you shouldn't to worry too much about the amount of fat you eat. We have to keep an eye on the carbs but as fat has little effect on blood sugar, common sense dictates for me anyway the amount of fat I eat. There is certainly no need to have a high fat diet which is why I hate the LCHF accronym but having proteins and fat to balance the low carbs is for me the sensible way forward. I see no need to advise newbies on how much fat to have?
 
noblehead said:
Simon, if you look Annie has posted this thread in the Ask a Question section of the forum which is relevant to what she is asking, we often get these sort of threads where members may ask each other how many carbs everyone is eating or what their days meals have consisted of for example, no one is forced to reply if they don't want to and can skip by the thread if they don't want to participate, also I don't see where Annie says that we have to eat the same way that she does.
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Thank you Noblehead
Some people seem to think my thread was about what I eat which it wasn't. I asked how much fat people ate in their diet in just the same way as we ask how many carbs people eat which is done all the time on the forum. In view of yesterday news on fat it may have been be of interest to some people especially newbies to know what works for others when it comes to fat just as they want to know about carbs We know how confusing some people find the ..high fat..bit
My way of eating is just that mine and I am happy with it and I in no way suggested others should do it the same way Other members also said how they eat but no one said that they were suggesting others should do it the same way as they did with me.The comment I made about wondering if there would be any long term effects on our bodies in other ways was something that was said on the internet in relation to the fat review yesterday It is normal to wonder about the unknown we do it all the time about all sorts of things but was not a suggestion that anyone should change what they do now That said I have no more comments to make on the thread people will have to take it as they want to see it
 
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Well I agree wholeheartedly with Daibell's post.

How much fat I eat is of no real interest or use to anyone but me.

As regards the long term effect of a high/higher fat diet? We already know that a low fat diet isn't good, so eating more fat will help us long term surely?

I'm pretty sure I know what the thread was about ;)
 
American diabetic association

Position Statement

http://www.professional.diabetes.org/admin/UserFiles/0 - Sean/dc132042 FINAL.pdf

Evidence is inconclusive for an ideal amount of total fat intake for people with diabetes;
therefore, goals should be individualized; fat quality appears to be far more important than quantity.

In people with type 2 diabetes, a Mediterranean-style, MUFA-rich [mono fat-rich] eating pattern may benefit glycemic control and CVD risk factors and can therefore be recommended as an effective alternative to a lower-fat, higher-carbohydrate eating pattern.
 
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