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Hyper or Hypo

Discussion in 'Type 2 Diabetes' started by mobrien, Mar 10, 2011.

  1. mobrien

    mobrien · Active Member

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    I am type 2 diet controlled, yesterday I had 3 hypo type attacks I have read diet controlled type 2 shouldn't get hypos but during these attacks I took my BG and they were only around the 11.5 area. I do have good control I am normally around 5.9. The attacks completely shook me I have never been as bad as that anyone else found the same thing happen to them
     
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    ebony321 · Well-Known Member

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    Hi,

    Did you wash your hands before you tested?

    I'm guessing you may not have as if you were feeling hypo, you probably just wanted to know where you were ASAP.

    Also if you had eaten something sugary with your hands, then tested it may have affected your reading.

    It's odd that if you are usually around the 5's that when feeling hypo you read at 11.5.

    Do you have control solution for your meter? i would just double check it's working fine :)
     
  3. mobrien

    mobrien · Active Member

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    No I indeed did not wash my hands :oops: for the first did for the second and 3rd, normally I get shakey when bg drops to 4.3ish so to see me having full blown hypo symptom attack at 11.5 was alarming and I didn't realise that you could get a hyper that was so similar to hypo :shock: I thought being a smug type 2 with diet control I was immune to such thing :cry:
     
  4. viviennem

    viviennem Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Hi,

    A hypo is usually below 4, as you know, although if your blood glucose has been running high you can get 'false hypos' at higher levels. I don't know how high you have to be to have a 'hyper'.

    I don't know very much about this (as you can tell :roll: ), but I'm sure someone who does will be along soon.

    Viv :)
     
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    Patch Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm... Strange one. Maybe you caught your BG as it was on it's way down? That is, hypo symptoms can be felt after a significant drop in BG, even when the drop does NOT take your BG below 4.

    Some call it a false hypo. (But I don't buy that).
     
  6. noblehead

    noblehead Type 1 · Guru
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    mobrian,

    Not a type 2 myself but your readings would suggest it is your body reacting to the higher levels (hyper). I find when I go above 10 mmol that I have similar symptoms as a hypo (confusion, lethargy) and do not feel good at all until I lower my levels.

    Nigel
     
  7. sugarless sue

    sugarless sue · Master

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    Nigel is right, many Diabetics cannot tell the difference between a hypo and a hyper without testing.

    As for the cause ? Exercise, stress, on-coming illness or infection, heat, to many carbs etc etc. Just another thing we all have to cope with in our Diabetes.
     
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    Marzeater · Well-Known Member

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    I too feel cr*p when I'm high and I use the test meter to be sure as the symptoms are very similar.
    I've read many things about treating a hypo but what do people do in the case of a hyper?
    I go for a brisk 2 mile walk.
     
  9. Sid Bonkers

    Sid Bonkers Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Could it be that you had a hypo and your liver kicked in and did its work of releasing glucagon/glucose into your blood stream before you tested?

    ie your blood glucose level may have dropped below 4 and caused the hypo which when corrected by your liver sent your bg high. Just a thought...
     
  10. bowell

    bowell · Well-Known Member

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    I get similar results
    if I ate some thing thats pushed my BG level up Very fast
    If i was to Eat a Mars bars bar now :roll:
    i would feel that way also get hot and sweaty, Thats is normally associated with a hypo

    GP informed me this used to be called a Sugar Rush (Very fast rise in BG level) :!:

    In fact i had one yesterday (sugar rush)
    My carer came with fish and chips for a treat its been over a year ( I did ask her) :oops:
    Well I only had few chips ,and that was a few to many :D
    not long after all hot and bothered and dizzy ,tested for Interest opps 15.3 from 6.2 in
    3/4 hour

    Must admit for me was worth it for a one off treat , all that salt and vinegar Umm Ummm
    still taste them now a day later :)

    Did you eat anything a bit high ?

    Diabetes effects us all in different ways
     
  11. mobrien

    mobrien · Active Member

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    Yeah had a home made pancake and leon juice no sugar though :D guess pancakes are away then
     
  12. cugila

    cugila · Master

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    Most people get hypo symptoms once they start to get close to the level of 4 mmol/l.......that is called hypo awareness. They may suffer one or more of the following symptoms :

    1. Excessive sweating
    2. Faintness
    3. Paleness
    4. Headache
    5. Tingling lips
    6. Pounding Heart
    7. Anxiety
    8. Blurred Vision
    9. Hunger
    10. Irritability / Confusion
    11. Lack of concentration
    12. Personality change
    13. Difficulty awakening
    14. Shaking

    Symptoms of Hyper's are usually one or more of these :

    1. Tiredness, lack of energy.
    2. Frequent urination.
    3. Thirst.
    4. Blurred vision.
    5. Weight loss.
    6. Dehydration.

    As you will see there is some crossover of symptoms hence the reason you test to see which is which ! You may also find that individuals develop their own particular symptoms.....I find if at hypo levels my nose gets blocked up ! A sign for me.

    A 'false hypo' is when the body has been used to running at higher levels for some time and the brain thinks this is normal. Subsequently a drop from those hyper levels initiates the body's warning signs. Symptoms as listed above for a hypo, even though the level may in fact be much higher than the 4 mmol/l mentioned as the floor for a genuine hypo. It is a well documented scenario in medical circles. It does happen and isn't a theory.

    The best thing to do in both cases is to try to prevent the hypo and the hyper levels by appropriate actions beforehand....which is another story ! :|
     
  13. didi

    didi · Member

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    I so agree about TEST ! TEST ! TEST.

    I have had so many symptoms of HYPO, but my readings have clearly indicated HYPER... I have had the HYPO symptoms - all but the tingling lips and all the HYPER symptoms. I thought perhaps my meter was faulty, so used a back up one which made no diff. I rang surgery at 5pm and explained things and had an appointment to see Dr at 5.15. I have been battling a sinus infection for months and dr I saw said that this is very likely the reason for my bg being high ( apart from me not really being good in controlling things) . I have an appointment with the specialist diabetic Dr tomorrow. The Dr I saw today confirmed that my symptoms are related to HYPER rather than HYPO. AND, I mentioned that I have started on a low carb diet the past few days and she agreed that it is totally the way to go in achieving control.

    I have spent many many hours on here researching things ( I have an enquiring mind- and insomnia :roll: ) and I have come to the conclusion that the advice given here is sound - based on the experience of fellow diabetics and it encourages us to take control of OUR OWN DIABETES rather than what the NHS etc says.
     
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