I Just Dint Get It

Hibby65

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Apologies if lm thick or in denial, l just don’t get. It

I was diagnosed with type 2 about 15 years ago. To this day l have mostly had to self help and diagnose online. I still don’t get it. Don’t get me wrong l to understand the concept, l just can’t grasp the day to day living with it. There are days when due to stress or work load I don’t take my insulin or blood pressure or cholesterol tablets, and you know what l survive l live. I function. So how the hell do l after 15 years start to accept this ****.
 
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Indy51

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Hi and welcome to the forum, @Hibby65 - I'm tagging @daisy1 for her advice to newcomers.

This forum is a font of information and success stories by people living with Type 2 and managing it via a low carb diet.

You might find some inspiration in this thread:
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/low-carb-success-stories.3763/

One disclaimer: if you're on insulin, you may need medical advice on reducing your insulin dose accordingly.

Please also see the Type 2 with insulin forum:
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/category/type-2-with-insulin.57/
 

Guzzler

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Hello and welcome to the forum.
 

TonyHancock

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Hi @Hibby65. I sympathise and empathise with you. I was only recently diagnosed, Oct 2017, and my frustration is not being able to understand all of the variables. :( Just when I think I am top of things something else throws me out of sync.
 

LooperCat

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Welcome to the forum, it’s so hard accepting it, isn’t it? I’ve been in denial for years, just doing the bare minimum to well, not die. After 20 years, it’s only at the beginning of this year that I finally got to grips with my diabetes, and manage it well. Coincidentally it’s around the time I joined this forum...

It’s mentally hard, dealing with a lifelong (probably) condition, but you’ll get lots of support and help here from people who live it every day.

Your food is your best treatment, alongside your meds. But that doesn’t mean a lifetime of miserableness on your plate, a few fundamental changes and you can eat like a king while maintaining good control of your diabetes x
 
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NicoleC1971

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Hi and I think everyone here gets your feelings;life is hard enough without adding this complication to it. It is more acute for me as a type 1 and I've slipped up big time but am still here but that's a stupid attitude to the known risks. I think there is a Simpsons episode in which Homer eats a jar of mayo plus drinks a bottle of vodka saying 'That's a problem for future Homer to worry about!'. How much hassle do you want to create for your future self?
 

daisy1

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@Hibby65

Hello Hibby and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask questions when you need to and someone will help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

Resurgam

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What I got at once was that it isn't me at fault - it is the things we are expected to eat.
Humans just do not do well on a high carbohydrate diet - it is the same thing fed to animals to fatten them up, and as they never see old age it doesn't matter if it is good or bad.
I happily eat meat and fish and shellfish, eggs and cheese - first my blood pressure has always been good - nurses have been known to go off and find another tester because they don't believe how good it is.
When I came off the 'cholesterol lowering' diet right after diagnosis, my cholesterol dropped - a delayed response, the nurse said - yeah, right.
Eating 50 gm of carbs a day, nothing over 10 percent carbs except a bit of high cocoa chocolate I went from diabetic to normal in 6 months - job done. No problem.
It is the same diet I went back to every time a low calorie one failed - the doctors would not accept that I just can't eat carbs and be healthy, nor that the weight was due to my muscles - I used to be a roadie and climbed, sailed, rowed, cycled, and went caving - sometimes all in the same week. At 147lb I was overweight. I had a 24 inch waist, but the charts said 'too fat'.
I can only recommend that anyone type two uses a meter, eats low carb and sees just what it does for their results. At the moment I am having to sort out my third change of clothes, as my shape is changing more than the weightloss would imply, and nothing fits except a few bits from the back of the wardrobe from long ago. Even my feet have shrunk.
 
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Phoenix55

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Welcome to the forum @Hibby65. I know some of us post on here regularly and it can sometimes seem as if we are 'navel gazing' but it may be helpful to for some to have a different perspective on a problem, and living with diabetes of whatever type can be a problem. Some people find that it helps to focus the mind to put a problem into words, some don't. Some find one approach works for them others try something different because it fits better with their situation, the way their body reacts, what is available in their country etc. We each recommend from what we have found works for us. I have been very fortunate in finding this forum, finding advice that I could fit with my life and have managed to remain in control of my bg and drug free for couple of years. I eat lowish carb, test bg regularly and exercise intermittently (depending on what fits in with my life at the time) If someone has a problem with timing and using insulin you may be able to help. The point of this forum is that all are welcome to come, read, contribute or not, leave and return.
 
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briped

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you can eat like a king while maintaining good control of your diabetes x
I've seen pics of your royal meals, thank you!! You should open a restaurant, preferably in Copenhagen :)