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- Type of diabetes
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- Diet only
I was absolutely amazed yesterday to come to the site after reading the news on the latest ND press release.
I wonder why there isn't far more positive and balanced views expressed here. Surely - even if you personally do not want to "try the shakes" or "afford to lose weight" or "think the only way is LC" there should have been a far more positive view on the near 50% of people who have got their BG under some form of control. Why this undercurrent. Is it really simply because it is not LC? Why oh why do we have to constantly have this LC - VLCD war? It is beginning to wear me down.
I read many testimonials on here from people with great stories of how they got their BG under control through LC and quite rightly they get oodles of positive feedback - like's. There was never ever - well it isn't really scientific - what no carbs - well it isn't really reversed is it - no just 100% good quality support.
But if it isn't LC - there is a definite and from some quite a strong negative spin on the whole thing and I wonder why?
I notice many of those posting although they assure they only comment on what they have tried - they haven't in fact.
Why is it that on this site we do not embrace and support all kinds of different treatments - particularly one that at least has some form of science and explanations behind it with what is becoming not only quite a wide trial but is supported by hundreds and hundred of personal experiences showing that they have improved their BG.
And for someone who has at least tried both - On LC - I lost a ton of weight - I got my BG under good control but I had two major problems. 1. Even the sniff of a carb sent me off the scale - I was eating less and less to get good control and having to walk more and more - and 2. I was getting the liver dump issue. Both went away on the ND where I was on near 100g carbs (10 fold increase) and my liver dump just went away.
Interestingly since the ND completed for me my up and down curve is much better than it was under LC but as I return low carb my liver dump has returned. I am now able to eat many more carbs including chips and some sweet foods at times and keep my BG at a good controlled level on occasions and even had a mince pie recently with very little BG impact. I can assure you that licking the knife used to cut a cake previously raised my BG notably.
Does that mean I am anti LC - not at all - fantastic. DOes it mean I am cured reversed regressed - not enough to just eat what I want all of the time.
But for any newbie arriving and reading all the poor press - don't listen to all it - make your own mind up - be open minded and if you feel confident with your GP support do not reject the ND diet the results are speaking for themselves. And certainly do not reject LC or think the two things are not two great weapons in the war on the disease.
I wonder why there isn't far more positive and balanced views expressed here. Surely - even if you personally do not want to "try the shakes" or "afford to lose weight" or "think the only way is LC" there should have been a far more positive view on the near 50% of people who have got their BG under some form of control. Why this undercurrent. Is it really simply because it is not LC? Why oh why do we have to constantly have this LC - VLCD war? It is beginning to wear me down.
I read many testimonials on here from people with great stories of how they got their BG under control through LC and quite rightly they get oodles of positive feedback - like's. There was never ever - well it isn't really scientific - what no carbs - well it isn't really reversed is it - no just 100% good quality support.
But if it isn't LC - there is a definite and from some quite a strong negative spin on the whole thing and I wonder why?
I notice many of those posting although they assure they only comment on what they have tried - they haven't in fact.
Why is it that on this site we do not embrace and support all kinds of different treatments - particularly one that at least has some form of science and explanations behind it with what is becoming not only quite a wide trial but is supported by hundreds and hundred of personal experiences showing that they have improved their BG.
And for someone who has at least tried both - On LC - I lost a ton of weight - I got my BG under good control but I had two major problems. 1. Even the sniff of a carb sent me off the scale - I was eating less and less to get good control and having to walk more and more - and 2. I was getting the liver dump issue. Both went away on the ND where I was on near 100g carbs (10 fold increase) and my liver dump just went away.
Interestingly since the ND completed for me my up and down curve is much better than it was under LC but as I return low carb my liver dump has returned. I am now able to eat many more carbs including chips and some sweet foods at times and keep my BG at a good controlled level on occasions and even had a mince pie recently with very little BG impact. I can assure you that licking the knife used to cut a cake previously raised my BG notably.
Does that mean I am anti LC - not at all - fantastic. DOes it mean I am cured reversed regressed - not enough to just eat what I want all of the time.
But for any newbie arriving and reading all the poor press - don't listen to all it - make your own mind up - be open minded and if you feel confident with your GP support do not reject the ND diet the results are speaking for themselves. And certainly do not reject LC or think the two things are not two great weapons in the war on the disease.