Hi all,
Those of us with R.H. have an atypical insulin response and/or process carbohydrates very rapidly.
I peak on carbs at c.1hr post first bite and if I peak high I can go low if I exercise at +2hrs from first bite.
Clearly I produce plenty of insulin but the peak possibly occurs after 1 hour.
Hence, although I have a bmi below 25 I still get N.A.F.L.D. unless I stop eating carbs.
Do I have insulin resistance? I think not.
Do I have an anomalous insulin response? Probably. Insulin has almost certainly given me N.A.F.L.D.
Do I process high GI carbs too quickly? Very probably.
What should ones ideal insulin response be and what is 'normal'?
Many thanks for your responses.
regards
Derek
Hi Derek,
How are you?
No I really don't think you are insulin resistant!
Yes, we spike really quickly between the half hour till after an hour, mine is around forty minutes, but it all depends on what I eat, wether digestion is quick or quicker!
Being on my meds has not changed that.
NAFL does tend to give you insulin resistance in 'normal' people, but because of the imbalance of our hormones, we have surplus insulin, that turns into visceral fat and that gives you the fatty liver, and of course the hypos!!
Eventually, the fatty liver will recover back to normal levels, as mine did, because of the low carb lifestyle. Nothing else! Losing weight helps, if you have any to lose!
I have discussed the insulin response with my endocrinologist and he is not aware why except that he accepts that we do! This is why some endocrinologists insist that there is not a condition as such.
Why do we use our glucose up quickly?
It's because we flood our blood with insulin because of the trigger that carbs and other sugars have the effect it does on us. We are left with too much Insulin as an overshoot, and that is not good!
This link goes to an interesting article on the bloodsugar101 website explaining how the insulin response can deteriorate, as we move towards diabetes - long before any of the usual tests run by doctors will show any abnormalities.
http://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/51/suppl_1/S117.full
This link goes to an interesting article on the bloodsugar101 website explaining how the insulin response can deteriorate, as we move towards diabetes - long before any of the usual tests run by doctors will show any abnormalities.
http://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/51/suppl_1/S117.full
I'm not going to get in a bit of fracas with you Brun, over this article, but!
The first paragraph elaborates on a bilateral response of action towards a meal, of insulin on the glucose by the beta cells etc.
Of course this is by those who do not have RH!
RH does not do this, we only have a unilateral reaction, that is why we spike so quickly, and use our glucose up, hence the excessive insulin.
I had this explained to me by my specialist because of my tests done.
It is a hormonal imbalance.
I would imagine that whatever the article concludes in degenerative action to our response would not apply.
I'm going to hide in the corner of the forum and turn the light off!
oh lol noshy.
I didn't post it because I think it directly applies to RHers, but a lot of RHers go on to develop T2 (like me) so we can have multiple things going on simultaneously, which is always going to muddy the water, and make RH even more difficult to diagnose.
But that article is very informative on what happens to T2s... so comparisons can be made - highlighting the similarities as well as the differences. When I discovered that article I found it fascinating mainly because there is so much going on before T2 diagnosis - and most people (doctors) don't even know this happens.
The trouble is, there seems to be so little research on RHers.
I mean, I have always wondered do I produce too much insulin?
- is my insulin off switch the faulty thing?
- or do I produce too little glucagon?
- are those two the same, or slightly different?
- or do I just have mis-timed releases, which puts everything out of wack?
I have never come across any research that even looks at these questions, and frankly, I have just about given up looking...
If anyone knows of such research, please let me know!
Hi Nosher,
Thanks, have been a bit under the weather the last two weeks. And the weather is appalling up here.
I am hoping my next GGT will be even better but it doesn't look as if medicine, other than low carb, will do me any good!
The profession did not know what was causing high GGT in a non alcoholic!
Will post the result next tuesday.
Hope you and your wife are well.
regards
Derek
Thank you Derek. I am seeing a specialist this evening re possible Hughes Syndrome/sticky blood. I am hoping I don't need lifelong warfarin but we shall see x
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