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Is a Vegetarian diet really healthier than Omnivore?

Discussion in 'Diabetes Soapbox - Have Your Say' started by Oldvatr, Dec 29, 2019.

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  1. Mike D

    Mike D Type 2 · Expert

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    My thoughts are somewhat darker than one might assume.
     
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  2. Oldvatr

    Oldvatr Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I tried to bury one in the cat, but she gave it a wide berth. Thinking of sequestering the CO2 emissions by burying the fridge in the back garden. Nah that silly - easier to send it to landfill in the recycling. Don't have a compost heap ever since the rats moved in there otherwise that could be a good place for them - might act as an ant killer in the summer?
     
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    Listlad Prediabetes · BANNED

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    Stopping the burning of fossil fuels is correct. The explanation is outside the boundaries of this thread or even forum. I did post a good video on the explanation some months back but it was deleted.
     
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  4. Oldvatr

    Oldvatr Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    #64 Oldvatr, Jan 11, 2020 at 10:17 PM
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    I am sat here, in front of my woodburning stove, my only source of heat, hot water and cooking facilities. In a village with no gas.

    I had a discount for installing my system, as it was sold as an environmentally friendly thing to do.

    Our diesel car is on the drive. We bought it as we were told it was a better option than petrol and more environmentally friendly.

    We can't afford to replace either. I can't afford all electric heating etc. Solar panels are not an option.

    There are many in this position, having bought what was considered the environmental options a few years ago, and now look askance at for having them.

    Same with food. The goalposts keep changing. The cynical side of me thinks it's due to a lot of money being made by forcing us to keep buying different things, which is not an environmentally friendly thing to do.
     
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  6. Tipetoo

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    Listlad Prediabetes · BANNED

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    You are correct also. What chance do we have...
     
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    Yes, Queensland has a lot of resources, all of that coal we have sitting there waiting to be mined and shipped off to India and China... :D
     
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    Your wish is my command.
     
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    Yeah, to make electricity. I often wonder where people think this vast increase in electricity is coming from.
     
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    Listlad Prediabetes · BANNED

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    Watch out for what’s under Coober Pedy.
     
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    It's got to come from somewhere, burning wood for electricity generation is inefficient.
     
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    Opal, and a lot of potch...
     
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    Listlad Prediabetes · BANNED

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    None of my electricity supply is from fossil fuels.
     
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    Listlad Prediabetes · BANNED

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    Beneath the opals...
     
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    Not "all of us" on this forum! This is very country-specific, what you are talking about. Especially the parliament ref! :). I live in a country that made a very comprehensive and pretty darned successful re-creation of Scotland and England for immigrants from Britain here, by deforesting the native flora and fauna (rainforests) massively, with a much smaller human population and a benign climate - the upshot being absolutely masses of grass covered fields with masses of cows and sheep - and they aren't going anywhere any time soon, I promise! Definitely not by 2030!!!!

    I feel for you, re this possibility, and really appreciate your writings on it re your country. (I won't go into what else I feel for Brits about, re, ah, current politico-economic dramas!) If what you are saying does come about - my guess is there will be a huge black market in meat and seafood and fish - that being a very basic natural part of our species' food. I think you have mentioned this too in past posts? Quite right.
     
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    Yes, it does seem your gov is trying to barter its catbon footprint away by borrowing heavily from the Paris Agreement carbon capture scheme. Looking at the 2050 target of zero emissions, it seems they will fall short by about 47% for biogenic methane and will have to take other measures as yet unspecified.
    http://www.legislation.govt.nz/bill/government/2019/0136/latest/LMS183848.html

    Of course, if everybody else is cutting their meat imports to zero, then your market will shrink, and there will be a natural reduction in output accordingly. I do not think you will be immune from the fallout. especially if the carbon trading scheme is not able to absorb the levels of borrowing due to other players not meeting their targets either.
     
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