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Is it possible to have diabetes without sugar in urine?

Discussion in 'Children & Teens' started by Mharzbarz9959, Sep 25, 2018.

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Have you been diagnosed with type one but had a negative urine sample?

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  1. Mharzbarz9959

    Mharzbarz9959 · Newbie

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    Sorry if this is not on the right forum but I need help. I am 13 and female. I have coeliac disease diagnosed by a gastroentoroligist and I get all the usual symptoms for that but over the last couple of days I have developed a new set of symptoms that I have never had before with my coeliac disease. My symptoms are: urinating... A lot!, really really thirsty all the time, I feel faint occaisonally and I have pain in my upper,upper abdomen. I am also getting a few cramps here and there but not sure if that could be related or not. So we went to the doctors today and I did a urine sample. The doctor tested it for a urine infection and she also tested it for sugar. She said it wasnt showing up any sugar but I am still going for a blood test and I have to do a 12 hour fast before that. My symptoms have come on very suddenly and I am wondering if it is diabetes or not but my main question is, Is it still possible that I may have diabetes type 1 and the sugar has not started to enter the urine yet? Please help. Thanks in advance. I also forgot to mention that diabetes type 1 is a related condition to coeliac in some cases.
     
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  2. Antje77

    Antje77 LADA · Moderator
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    Yes, that's possible. So good you get a blood test as well. I hope it turns out to be something easier to manage than T1, but if not, happy to have you on the forum! I'll keep my fingers crossed for you!
     
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  3. slip

    slip Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I'm with Antje on this, make sure you get that blood test done, in fact if I was you I'd pop into a chemist and see if they can do a finger prick blood glucose test, but a highish score doesn't necessarily mean you are diabetic though.

    Presume you have spoken to your parent/carer about this?
     
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    LittleGreyCat Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Diakat Type 1 · Moderator
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    When is your blood test booked for?
     
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    DCUKMod I reversed my Type 2 · Master
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    Hi there, as the others have said, the blood test is the way to go.

    Did the urine sample show any infection at all? And finally (I'm good at asking questions. :) ), did the nurse to a finger prick test whilst you were there?
     
  7. Mharzbarz9959

    Mharzbarz9959 · Newbie

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    Ok thanks everyone. My parents are fully aware yes, they came to the doctors with me and everything. I didnt get a finger prick test. The blood test is in a few days. (I got booked in really quick). There was apparently no signs of infection. Thanks for all your help again
     
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  8. JoKalsbeek

    JoKalsbeek Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    Good luck with the test. Glad that, if it does turn out to be T1, you're catching it early. Loads of kids don't know something's wrong until they wake up in hospital. Still hoping it's something simple that'll go away though. Will keep my fingers crossed for you!
    Jo (A type 2)
     
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    daisy1 Type 2 · Legend
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  10. Mharzbarz9959

    Mharzbarz9959 · Newbie

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    Thank you but Im pretty sure I dont have diabetes now because the blood prick test ame back that my sugar levels were normal. Then again I have no idea how these things work and if not eating for hours before having the blood prick test changes the results? Only the big blood test will tell I guess. Thanks again though for all the support .
     
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