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Itv The Fat Fix: Diabetes

Discussion in 'Diabetes Soapbox - Have Your Say' started by ThePenguinPimp, Jun 13, 2018.

  1. Guzzler

    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    We have been commenting on it on another thread.
     
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  2. lucylocket61

    lucylocket61 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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  3. Guzzler

    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    I, for one, would not choose 800 calories of slime.
     
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  4. Guzzler

    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    And it is sustainable. No refeeding probs.
     
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  5. ThePenguinPimp

    ThePenguinPimp Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    That program was a joke funded by the food and pharmaceutical industry. If you click on forums tab at top then 'Newly Diagnosed' there are some useful pinned threads and I know people in here are only too happy to try to help! Lower your carb intake and your blood sugars will lower too.
     
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    dipsydo · Well-Known Member

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    Just watching on catchup and not doing much for my blood pressure . I know that there will be a second programme so hope it will be better than this one .

    One of the first points I noted was that some of these people had been diagnosed for a couple of years but still had high blood sugar so had they stopped their meds or were they not taking them or had stopped them for the programme ?

    Maybe the next programme will tell them how to transition onto a life time diet ( any bets that it will be the eat well plate? ). One cannot live on those shakes for ever!

    Another thing which was odd was that the half an hour in the pancreas was not mentioned and neither was insulin resistance it was all about the fatty liver which is of course is part of the problem but not the whole problem . No mention of exercise .

    When the people felt they wanted to give up because they were starving and cold they were shown a dead body which really a bit of excessive nonsense.
     
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  7. ThePenguinPimp

    ThePenguinPimp Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    They didn't even tell them what the message is they haven't got. It would be funny if it wasn't a sad reality of the world we live in. Very different to The Truth About Carbs on BBC1 last week.. that was truly informative.
     
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  8. Guzzler

    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    Couldn't agree more. If you understand the basics then you are more likely to know why eating that pork pie perhaps isn't the best decision to make.
     
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    Mel dCP Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I love a good autopsy, but was quite disappointed they were in a separate room watching on a screen. I was hoping for fainting and vomiting :p
     
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  10. Guzzler

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    As I said on the other thread, the autopsy was a stick too far.
     
  11. AdamJames

    AdamJames Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I thought it might go that way as well. Will this do for a quick fix?

     
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  12. Bluetit1802

    Bluetit1802 Type 2 (in remission!) · Guru

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    Presumably eating what they have been told to eat - lots of starchy carbs. AKA the Eatwell Plate, like a jacket potato with all its 19 cubes of sugar..

    When will the powers that be cotton on to the fact it is the nutrition guidance that is costing the NHS a lot of money in medicating T2s, and watching them progress to serious complications costing even more money. Changing the dietary advice is all that is needed.
     
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  13. Guzzler

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    Yup. Not to sound smug but if we laypeople can teach each other a method that works for the majority of people how much quicker and easier would it be for HCPs to do the same?
     
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  14. AdamJames

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    In addition to the change in dietary advice I'd say there is also the need to tackle the big food companies.

    I know we often mention how cynical they are, but it wasn't until I read a big article I posted here recently that I began to realise how positively evil some of their practices are. Literally spending tens of millions of dollars a year running big facilities, employing hundreds of scientists to come up with appallingly unhealthy food-like substances with maximum addictive properties.
     
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  15. Kittylitter

    Kittylitter Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    Just had a look at the Exante shakes and they do a coconut flavour one, and someone on the show was saying that it did not taste like a bounty - so probably was Exante.
     
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    Sounds more like Excramante to me.
     
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    Bluetit1802 Type 2 (in remission!) · Guru

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    Certainly looked like it.
     
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  18. Guzzler

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    I was surprised that I didn't see any sweetcorn or carrot in it... if you get my meaning.
     
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  19. Kittylitter

    Kittylitter Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    I was disapointed about the autopsy - but I do have autopsy dvds instead.
     
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    Watched Wednesday's episode did not get much that was new. I would be interested to know what the shakes were or how to make healthy ones.

    I think I got more out of last weeks BBC's The Truth about Carbs which showed me how I could make real food changes and get benefits.

    Yes it is lovely to see results and I get that you need to monitored, but you also need to given appropriate information. I have tried to stay off medication, even though the GP says I should have them with little explanation. Staff are not as well trained as they should be, so as well as trying to get people to make changes which is the most important, there also needs to be staff who know what they are talking about and are willing to explain the results fully. Whenever I have asked I am only told their too high or borderline. What does that mean and how do I make changes?" I will ask, to be told medication is the only way, obviously not, hence my thought that staff also require better training.

    Let us see what tonight brings!
     
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