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keto trouble

Discussion in 'Ketogenic diet forum' started by cdpm, Sep 17, 2020.

  1. cdpm

    cdpm Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    i understand the concept of the keto
    diet
    but im having trouble making
    it work
    with so many limitations that i have

    one limitation is
    that it cant be with meats
    one limitation is
    that my budget is very small
    one limitation is
    no dairy except maybe hard cheeses and cream cheese
    one limitation is
    im a bad cook and hate cooking
    one limitation is
    that foods have to be soft or
    can be made soft with no equipment but cutlery
    one limitation is
    it has to be low protein

    so then theres my taste limitations
    which are soy and fish

    i usually eat once (after fasting until im hungry to eat) and a snack if i need it to
    sleep
    ive cut fruit and grains out and higher carb veggies

    so what does this leave me to eat?
    keto wise i mean
     
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  2. Robbity

    Robbity Type 2 · Expert

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    Perhaps you could take a look at the lists of ketogenic and low carb foods on the DietDoctor website and choose a selection that best fits your limitations.
     
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  3. cdpm

    cdpm Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    peanut butter
    eggs
    low carb veggies
    hard cheese like cheddars

    possibly--
    cream cheese to try fat bombs
    bacon
    other nut butters
     
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  4. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Oracle

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    Any particular reason?
     
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  5. cdpm

    cdpm Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    pork and beef cause me the runs
    very badly
    i can tolerate a bit of chicken tho
    but its not very keto
    in my understanding
    a keto food has fat
    as the highest macro?
    and chicken breast has more protein
    breast especially
     
  6. cdpm

    cdpm Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    if this is true
    than an egg doesnt technically fit either
    as a large egg has 1 more gram
    of protein than fat
    what is the definition of a keto food?
    is it a food with more fat than protein?
    im wondering so i can figure
    it out for myself without the long lists
     
  7. Goonergal

    Goonergal Type 2 · Moderator
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    @cdpm in my view there is no such thing as a ‘keto’ food. A ketogenic diet refers to adopting a way of eating that is sufficiently low in carbohydrates to put you into nutritional ketosis and switch your body from using carbs/sugar as it’s primary source of fuel to using fat.

    The balance of fat/protein required will vary by individual depending upon their goals/ amount of body fat and so on. In your position with a number of restrictions about what you are able to eat, I’d be inclined to keep things as simple as possible - eating real, unprocessed foods with as few carbs as possible should ensure ketosis, if that is what you are aiming for.
     
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  8. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Oracle

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    "Keto food" doesn't really exist.. ketosis is a state of your body running on ingested or stored fats.
    Restricting carbohydrates to fewer than 20g per day will get most people (almost all) into ketosis.
    Once you have burnt off stored glucose the body will switch to burning fat and protein for energy 9some f that will be body fat which is why weight loss happens).

    Meat and fish are carb free so can be eaten in any quantities
    dairy cheese cream etc is pretty low in carbs
    Green veg and salad are pretty low in carbs too

    www.dietdoctor.com has a huge range of recipes and foods for keto eating.
     
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  9. Jim Lahey

    Jim Lahey I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Agree heartily with @Goonergal and @bulkbiker. Nutritional ketosis is a metabolic pathway, not a menu. Ketosis can be achieved with a whole-food ancestrally appropriate diet low in grains and carbohydrates, or a diet full of processed junk and artificial sweeteners.

    Regarding dietary fat intake, personally I try to keep mine as high as reasonably possible, but that's because I'm built like a whippet and don't have much of my own reserves to burn-off.
     
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