IMHO, you would be better off doing some light resistance training, fasting while lean is more likely to burn more muscle mass, decreasing the very engine that burns glucose. Imho, it’s better to increase lean mass which adds more insulin receptors .Does anyone has any advice whether fasting is detrimental if you are a low weight to begin with. I am interested in 16/8 to reduce morning blood glucose readings but dont want to lose weight. Current BMI 20. Thank you!
I struggle to lose weight on 16/8 with low carb because of the calories I get from healthy fats such as cream, nuts, cheese, extra cheese, dark chocolate, avocadoes etc. If you're eating the same calories you shouldn't lose weight (just body fat loss and lean muscle gain.)
Quite a few people are gall bladder less around here.. although I can't recall who to tag them in.. extra fat should come as part of what you eat rather than extra so maybe some of the fattier cuts of meat so you get protein and fat combined.Thank you for your comments and suggestions. I guess a bit of experimentation wont hurt. Could try a bit of resistance training...never thought of that. I forgot to mention I can only increase fats to a certain extent due to no gallbladder but 12/12 maybe a happy medium too.
@Honeyblossom - My BMI is 18.5-19, so don't have much wiggle room for weightloss, but I have sometimes used fasting, albeit usually on long haul flights and such like, where I feel confident the food wouldn't make me happy, so I just choose to swerve it.
When I want to do that (the fast will usually be 36-48 hours- depending how you add in or take away time differences), I usually do a few days of carnivorous eating beforehand. I usually just do the carni - fattier meats, whether that is lamb, a fattier steak, belly pork or chicken thighs, right up until I get onto the aircraft, then that's it until I arrive, and have slept.
I don't think about what level of calories I'm taking in on the carni phase, but it'll be a few.
Many, many find the lack of gallbladder to be a red herring when low carbing. Personally, I have my gallbladder, but I do have a fat threshold. If I just eat too much - usually nut based fats, I experience steatorrhea. I won't describe it, but should it occur, I just dial back on the fats/nuts a bit until it subsides.
When I come out of the fast, my first meal will always be light. else my tummy can feel like I've eaten a boulder.
Obviously, we're all different, but for me it's doable provided I prepare.
That's really helpful. So it's not just us gallbladderless people that experience problems with higher fat intake. I take my hat off to anyone managing 24 hour + fast, I'll experiment and see what works for me.
Thankyou for your comments @AloeSvea. I was hba1c of 40 on last test (april 20) and am awaiting next blood results. I was bmi 23 on diagnosis down to 20 after low carbing and taking on board all the great advice on this site. My main bug bear is a morning glucose consistently in the 6s but I guess as you said if I can keep my hba1c where it is, a high normal, maybe I shouldn't be worrying. Let's see what the next tests say.
16/8 should be fine but remember to re feed with plenty of protein and fat so that you maximise your muscle mass. Your BMI doesn't tell me your body fat levels but I'd assume you are a lean type with low levels of muscle? During those 8 hours you may need to include high quality carbs in order to get enough calories to allow you to build muscle in response to some kind of resistance training. If you don't eat enough there's a risk that your body will use muscle for fuel though this is a last resort!Does anyone has any advice whether fasting is detrimental if you are a low weight to begin with. I am interested in 16/8 to reduce morning blood glucose readings but dont want to lose weight. Current BMI 20. Thank you!
My BMI is 19.8 , But I am on a very low carb diet for the last 3-4 months and the HBA1c has come down from 7.1 to 6.1 so far. I want to bring the BMI under 19, I had diabetes for over 35 years, hope this will help. Dr Jason Fung (youtube) says even the skinny people may have fat in the liver and pancreasDoes anyone has any advice whether fasting is detrimental if you are a low weight to begin with. I am interested in 16/8 to reduce morning blood glucose readings but dont want to lose weight. Current BMI 20. Thank you!
IMHO, you would be better off doing some light resistance training, fasting while lean is more likely to burn more muscle mass, decreasing the very engine that burns glucose. Imho, it’s better to increase lean mass which adds more insulin receptors .
Ive been seeing a dietician for the last year to try and get my sugars under control so I tried the 50 g carb and stuck quite rigidly to it . My dietician wasn’t impressed and said the long term results were not known but Ive now started to lose muscle mass in my legs and have been told to up it he carbs which I have done but unfortunately my sugars have risen as well. It seems you can’t win, aching muscles or higher sugarsYes agreed. I am 19.2 bmi, having lost some weight eating low carb but not fasting. To my horror I lost some muscle. Not lots but I noticed. I always built muscle by eating carbs beforehand so I can’t imagine fasting would be good for holding on to muscle. Better eat, even if it’s cheese, so I can work out.
Having trouble understanding this bit of advice you have been given. Why would increasing carbs build muscle? Increasing carbs for a T2 will just build fat.lose muscle mass in my legs and have been told to up it he carbs
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