Also in white rice and on festive occasions sweets. Also muslims fast for Ramadan, which involves no food OR DRINK during the hours of daylight, combined often with stuffing before dawn and after sunset in order to stoke up for the day's fast. Many sikhs and hindus are vegetarian, so will not be eating meat fat, though they will of course be cooking with ghee. As a vegetarian I hold no brief for meat fat, just saying...!I do not eat the fat off meat as when I was in the hospital after a heart attack, every single person on the same ward as I were Asians like Pakistan etc. Now they eat a lot of fats and ghee that is their main diet, yet they all had a Heart Attack and had high cholesterol..Considering their diet is probably more natural than the British diet meaning they eat meats and cook with a lot of Ghee and cream this does play on my mind. I will eat butter and have cream but not to much of it. There diet is very high in fat
Are you referring to my signature ?OK I give in - what is MDI? Do you get it from Ikea?
People with high cholesterol may be interested in this article from Heart UK the cholesterol charity
https://heartuk.org.uk/cholesterol-...diets-and-foods/saturated-fat-and-cholesterol
I don't know if it is right or wrong it is just another view to consider but then that must also go for other things we read that says higher cholesterol is not bad how do we decide what is right or wrong or do we just believe what we want to. As for cholesterol being better for older women is that a study of specifically older women with diabetes or older women without diabetes who are at a lower risk of heart attack and stroke. What is considered a good level for cholesterol before it is classed as being to high there must come a point when it is but that never seems to be saidJust because Heart UK says so doesn't necessarily make it correct..
I have come to the conclusion that some people can eat pasta, rice, potatoes and have no affects through their life of high sugar, yet there are others us who cannot. What foods seem ok for some are not for all
Yes - I am being referred to a lipid consultant - bit worrying about the view that I need to take a statin 'to keep me alive'!There is one pathway in the liver that does not work for a few people, if the test shows you are one of these people you need to take a spasal statin to keep you alive. (This is normly done by a lipid consultant not a GP.)
Muslims only fast once a year and also when they do eat during this time this is not recommended for a person with diabetes in general. I would not say that fasting once a year makes a lot of difference, to be honest.Also in white rice and on festive occasions sweets. Also muslims fast for Ramadan, which involves no food OR DRINK during the hours of daylight, combined often with stuffing before dawn and after sunset in order to stoke up for the day's fast. Many sikhs and hindus are vegetarian, so will not be eating meat fat, though they will of course be cooking with ghee. As a vegetarian I hold no brief for meat fat, just saying...!
I can see what you are saying but many of studies that I am reading with all of this is the words "could, possibly, may, More words of "Could be dangerous" none seem to set any of it in stone regarding Cholesterol. I also notice when logging onto this site that we get news feeds, like one was where it said that people with heart disease are more likely to die 7 fold if they have diabetes" When you click into it the words "May, Possibly, could" This I am finding scaremongering. Another one was telling people that being on medication could kill a person rather than lowering their sugar naturally. This I find upsetting also. So I am looking for something concrete regarding CholesterolOr maybe not.. Are any of those statements supported by evidence?
Just because Heart UK says so doesn't necessarily make it correct..
We ae seeing more and more evidence that
1. Cholesterol is not a "problem" (especially useful as we would die without it)
2. What we know about how cholesterol works is at the moment very limited (and I would go so far as to say that 95% of GP's don't understand it)
3. Cholesterol levels can go up and down during the day like blood sugars so all we ever see on a test is a snapshot of what our levels were at that particular time
4. LDL has been incorrectly labelled as "bad" without much (if any) evidence and it could well be that LDL particle size is important rather than total LDL (which is usually a calculated number anyway)
5. For older women higher cholesterol numbers seem to be protective so artificially lowering it though medication could well be dangerous
6. All the evidence so far for statins being beneficial is either held by the drugs companies that make them and has not been available for review or does not seem to support their "life enhancing" properties much if at all
7. If you are worried about your heart health then try and get a scan that looks at the heart and arteries so you can see if there is anything nasty going on rather than looking at a rather bad proxy (cholesterol)
I don't think that any of that is mentioned on the heartuk.org website although I think it is pretty much the current state of thinking of a lot of cardiologists - Prof Rory Collins aside
but then again I'm no doctor just someone that spends a lot of time (too much maybe) reading about this stuff rather than relying on what I have been told by the powers that be..
Exactly they are probably doing more damage to be honestThe problem with the muslin daytime fasting is that as soon as the sun sets they eat a VERY high carb meal, undoing any benefit of the relativity short daylight fast.
I am on Statins and have been for years but |I had a heart attack 14 years ago. If you have not had a heart attack maybe lower your cholesterol naturally, some people can't hence that is why some take Statins. There are some who have horrible affects from taking them. I, on the other hand, have been fine as of yetYes - I am being referred to a lipid consultant - bit worrying about the view that I need to take a statin 'to keep me alive'!
I can see what you are saying but many of studies that I am reading with all of this is the words "could, possibly, may, More words of "Could be dangerous" none seem to set any of it in stone regarding Cholesterol. I also notice when logging onto this site that we get news feeds, like one was where it said that people with heart disease are more likely to die 7 fold if they have diabetes" When you click into it the words "May, Possibly, could" This I am finding scaremongering. Another one was telling people that being on medication could kill a person rather than lowering their sugar naturally. This I find upsetting also. So I am looking for something concrete regarding Cholesterol
I wonder if people with diabetes are more sensitive to cholesterol or more prone to heart problems, so the advice for the general public needs to be tweaked for us?
Yes - I am being referred to a lipid consultant - bit worrying about the view that I need to take a statin 'to keep me alive'!
I suppose I am a bit worried that a normal HbA1c is only part of the issue, and there may be other issues we either dont yet know about, or I dont yet know about.I think that may be true of those with poorly controlled blood sugar levels like the poor souls following the Eatwell guidelines. If you have non diabetic HbA1c then where lies the problem?
Well I'd wait and see what results you get first. It is possible to get a full lipid panel done privately but it costs about £40.00 minimum so not exactly cheap plus you'd need to get the blood drawn somewhere too which I'm afraid may also have a cost attached.I suppose I am a bit worried that a normal HbA1c is only part of the issue, and there may be other issues we either dont yet know about, or I dont yet know about.
I only eat olive oil, butter, lard, goose fat as the fats part of my diet. I dont eat extra fat on purpose. I eat whole fat stuff, no low-fat stuff. I hope that is enough to keep me healthy. I wont get my cholesterol results for three weeks, and then it is only the total. Is there a way of getting a breakdown done privately? I am on benefits, so cost is an issue here.
I wonder if people with diabetes are more sensitive to cholesterol or more prone to heart problems, so the advice for the general public needs to be tweaked for us?
Although people with health problems are excused from the muslim fast, in reality they are often reluctant to exclude themselves from this group religious actvity.Muslims only fast once a year and also when they do eat during this time this is not recommended for a person with diabetes in general. I would not say that fasting once a year makes a lot of difference, to be honest.
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