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Low Carbing and Ketones. Please help

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ChinchillaMum80

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Hi. So I've been doing keto rather than just low carb diet for a few days. I've been noticing that my blood ketones readings have been over 3 on a couple of occasions. Once was in the morning and my BGL was 5.9 although it increased to 7.5. The other time was after exercise and my BGL was 8.2. I am taking long-acting metformin in the mornings. Can anyone advise if this is normal or what they have done in this situation? I haven't spoken to my doctor as she knows very little about the keto diet and I know medical professionals are quick to panic over ketosis.
 
Were you feeling ok? If you’re eating keto - and particularly if you’re using intermittent fasting - those ketone readings wouldn’t be unusual.
 
For the record coukd you please specify your type of diiabetes in your profile @ChincillaMum80.
I am assuming you have been diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes, but it is always good to have that confirmed.
 
bulkbiker said:
How often do you test?
And are you still injecting insulin?
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I test waking up, before meal and 2 hrs after meal (I eat 3 meals a day), and before bed.

No I stopped using insulin in January. I had been taking 40 units of Lantus until i started low carbing last August. I started Metformin last September. I take 1000mg in the morning
 
15/10/2018 HbA1c 27 weight 95.35kg Total Cholesterol 6.3 HDL 1.51 Trigs1.0
Your Trigs and HDL are so good, but your total cholesterol is so high, so must be your LDL, what do you think make them high, don't you consider taking medication?
 
If you wish to get an unbiased by Pharmaceutical industry and unbiased by guidelines that doctors have been infuenced to make by said industry please subscribe to zoeharcombe.com, and ask any statin-pushing doctor to do the same.
She will mention that the LDL Cholesterol mentioned above ( part of the total cholesterol result) is artifically increased in a low carb diet so one cannot draw any reliable conclusions from it. The triglceride/ HDL Cholesterol ratio ( triglcerides a fat carried in the blood and HDL Cholesterol another subfraction of the total cholesterol) is the thing that sensible doctors use as some measure of how the blood lipids are.
Your Triglycerides are nice and low which is healthy as you will read and are a consequence of your liw carb diet.
Congratulations.
Not as cause but as a possible association, the lower your cholesterol reading is the higher the risk of death according to a study performed by Zoe Harcombe.
It does sort of raise the question as to why people would be prescribed or agree to take statins which lower cholesterol.
 
ChinchillaMum80 said:
I test waking up, before meal and 2 hrs after meal (I eat 3 meals a day), and before bed.

No I stopped using insulin in January. I had been taking 40 units of Lantus until i started low carbing last August. I started Metformin last September. I take 1000mg in the morning
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Well 3 mmol/m is a decent nutritional ketosis number and your blood sugars are relatively ok so providing you aren't taking any SGLT-2 inhibitors it should be ok..keep an eye on it though.. when you measured your ketones what time of day was it?
 
bisalimo said:
15/10/2018 HbA1c 27 weight 95.35kg Total Cholesterol 6.3 HDL 1.51 Trigs1.0
Your Trigs and HDL are so good, but your total cholesterol is so high, so must be your LDL, what do you think make them high, don't you consider taking medication?
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ChinchillaMum80 said:
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I think this is a comment on @bulkbiker ’s stats in his signature, but let’s not derail this thread which is about low carbing and ketones.
 
bisalimo said:
15/10/2018 HbA1c 27 weight 95.35kg Total Cholesterol 6.3 HDL 1.51 Trigs1.0
Your Trigs and HDL are so good, but your total cholesterol is so high, so must be your LDL, what do you think make them high, don't you consider taking medication?
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Oh I see that was for me...
Why would I take medication.
I don't see high LDL as a problem..
 
Not when people seem to live longer when their LDL is higher than advised.
It would be easy to develop a conspiracy theory about killing off the excess population.
In most cases of ketoacidosis the blood glucose levels are rather high - 'normal' ketosis is what happens when eating a low carb diet.
 
bulkbiker said:
Well 3 mmol/m is a decent nutritional ketosis number and your blood sugars are relatively ok so providing you aren't taking any SGLT-2 inhibitors it should be ok..keep an eye on it though.. when you measured your ketones what time of day was it?
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Ketones were 3.4 in the morning when BGL was 5.9 (BGL then rose to 7.5 but that is normal for me). The other time, the ketones were 3.8 in the afternoon after I'd been gardening and my BGL was 8.2
 
Why would I take medication.
I don't see high LDL as a problem..

Not when people seem to live longer when their LDL is higher than advised.

Is there any proof that LDL cholesterol is not a problem, and people with elevated LDL seem to live longer? Endocrinologists and cardiologists agree that LDL-C should be kept <100
 
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