You've put it a lot better than I was going to!The only twittering I take note of is from the birds in the trees. Tweet Tweet.
No, because unfortunately the PC I am using is blocked from TwitterI notice that @tim2000s hasn't linked to the tweet concerned but has given us his and Partha Kar's opinion.
You all know my disdain for misrepresentation so here is a link to the original tweet that started the whole thing off.
https://twitter.com/lowcarbdiabetic/status/1009747671953956864
And I think you'll find that I asked a question rather than expressed an opinion in my original post. I think it raises interesting questions.That's Tim and Partha Kar's interpretation.. not necessarily everybody elses'.. that's why I posted a link to the initial tweet to let people make up their own minds rather than be influenced by the opening post.
Nothing to do with Eddie really, more about the following question:@tim2000s I am wondering what your motive was in posting this? This forum is a nice place to be now, why bring up old hurts?
The question for me becomes "When you are in a position of Authority/Importance, do you ignore something that you may or may not disagree with, in the hope it goes silent, at the risk of being seen to advocate it or do you participate in the discussion, disagreeing with OP at risk of continuing the conversation and risk raising the profile of it even more?"
That's where this one is tricky...
Seriously, @tim2000s, put in such a position, I would leave those who are so inclined to speculate on my lack of response, because generally people will already have formed an opinion and so nothing I would say would make them change that opinion. The sort of Twitter debate you hghlighted, or indeed any similar sort of online controversial subject, (particularly where 'shaming' of one sort or another is concerned) tends to feed and thrive on the response to them. The instigators love the thrill of the argument.No, because unfortunately the PC I am using is blocked from Twitter
And I think you'll find that I asked a question rather than expressed an opinion in my original post. I think it raises interesting questions.
Nothing to do with Eddie really, more about the following question:
If you are held up as an advocate for a way of life/diet/etc, and then tagged into a conversation like this as an avid Twitter user, it's very difficult to not be aware of it. It's interesting that @Southport GP commented contra to the thread whilst none of the others did (and he wasn't tagged in the initial post).
The question for me becomes "When you are in a position of Authority/Importance, do you ignore something that you may or may not disagree with, in the hope it goes silent, at the risk of being seen to advocate it or do you participate in the discussion, disagreeing with OP at risk of continuing the conversation and risk raising the profile of it even more?"
That's where this one is tricky...
Are the people in the photo supposed to be fat?I notice that @tim2000s hasn't linked to the tweet concerned but has given us his and Partha Kar's opinion.
You all know my disdain for misrepresentation so here is a link to the original tweet that started the whole thing off.
https://twitter.com/lowcarbdiabetic/status/1009747671953956864
No their slim, but the picture has been photo-shopped!Are the people in the photo supposed to be fat?
Body shaming is not acceptable
Well I feel that way. I did comment on that post and I can see that most people feel the views expressed are fat shaming and cruel. I was thinking more that it is sad that like many of the people who have been advised on healthy eating over the last 30 years, I feel misled on how I ate and how I fed my family and sad that the dietitians were equally misled in their training overy so many years. But I have refected on the reaction and I will be more careful in future.But we all do it? Don't we? In our minds if not out loud...
If you were sent to a dietician for eating advice and they were obese would you not question the quality of that advice?
Or maybe I'm just a body shaming old fascist..
Everyone has a right to silence. Of course, it's dammed if you do and dammed if you don't!On Twitter yesterday there was a highly inflammatory and very emotional discussion long thread where "militant" Low Carbers were posting photos of dietitians, body shaming them, saying "No wonder the NHS is giving bad advice, look at how fat all these dietitians are" [transposed - not actual words used]. The people in question making the posting will be well known to long term members of the forum.
As part of this, some very well known low carb advocates were named in the initial tweets (Zoe Harcombe, Aseem Malhotra, Tim Noakes), and none of them bothered to comment dissociating themselves from the body shaming approach that the perpetrator was undertaking (and other participants continued with).
As a result, Partha Kar wrote this blog post: http://nhssugardoc.blogspot.com/2018/06/diets-and-shaming.html, which Zoe Harcombe took offence at.
My question to the forum - as a centre of Low Carb excellence, do you agree with Partha, or do you think that the named doctors were right to make no comment whatsoever on being associated with body shaming and diet?
So is this picture fat shaming?
https://www.england.nhs.uk/diabetes/
Shouldn't they know better? the NHS I mean rather than those pictured..
I saw that and lifted the link but I feel it is also very relevant to this thread as well...Someone has started a separate thread about that page, it’s here:
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/really-sorry-a-rant.152992/#post-1823593
There’s a contact posted in the thread if you want to complain.
I saw that and lifted the link but I feel it is also very relevant to this thread as well...
To be honest this rubbish is so commonplace it's hardly worth it...Oh indeed it is, I just wondered if you had seen the contact details if you wanted to complain?
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