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Mouthwashes and toothpaste

sue512

sue512

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I’ve never considered if these could affect blood sugars but I’ve been getting a spike up to 9-13 most mornings now, even on the days I’ve skipped breakfast. I do drink decaf coffee with milk and have been following a low carb high fat diet for the last 6 weeks. Any ideas?
 
I think the simplest way to see if toothpaste or mouthwash affect your blood sugars, would be to test at the same time of day with of without breakfast, with no teeth brushing, so you can check your morning readings with and without toothpaste and mouthwash.
 
In Response said:
Are you sure the toothpaste or mouthwash has anything to do with it?
Could it be foot on the floor?
Or if you see the spike on a Libre, could it be a false spike caused by the hot water in the shower?
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This is just from blood spot 2 hours after either breakfast or mid morning if I’ve fasted. No libre. No shower this morning either. Experimentation to see what’s causing it could leave me very grubby teeth included!
 
sue512 said:
Experimentation to see what’s causing it could leave me very grubby teeth included!
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I’m not suggesting you don’t brush your teeth for days on end! Lol! Just wait til after the test is done.
 
I wouldn't have thought either would create such a rise unless you are eating the whole tube in one one go, or drinking teh bottle.
In normal usage absolutely minimal amounts (if any) would be ingested and passed into the bloodstream
 
MrsA2 said:
I wouldn't have thought either would create such a rise unless you are eating the whole tube in one one go, or drinking teh bottle.
In normal usage absolutely minimal amounts (if any) would be ingested and passed into the bloodstream
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I’m pretty certain that fast acting carbs aren’t used in oral hygiene products.
But I wonder if there is some link to where the puzzlement & assumption with dental products being a “possible causation” coming from stuff like this??? https://www.mkuh.nhs.uk/patient-information-leaflet/use-of-glucogel
 
Jaylee said:
I’m pretty certain that fast acting carbs aren’t used in oral hygiene products.
But I wonder if there is some link to where the puzzlement & assumption with dental products being a “possible causation” coming from stuff like this??? https://www.mkuh.nhs.uk/patient-information-leaflet/use-of-glucogel
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No idea , it was the only thing I’d done differently first thing in morning. I’m just looking for a reason for spike in blood sugars in morning.
 
danziger said:
If I go too long without eating, my FBG can go into double figures
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Usually I don’t do long without eating unless I’m sleeping, probably why my bmi is raised. I’ve recently skipped breakfast when I’ve not felt hungry. I seem to have this spike about a few hours after taking medication whether I eat or not.
 
sue512 said:
I’ve never considered if these could affect blood sugars but I’ve been getting a spike up to 9-13 most mornings now, even on the days I’ve skipped breakfast. I do drink decaf coffee with milk and have been following a low carb high fat diet for the last 6 weeks. Any ideas?
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What made you suspect that using these products could affect your blood sugar?
 
david4503 said:
What made you suspect that using these products could affect your blood sugar?
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Only as I was cleaning teeth wondered if they might. However am sure I’ve discovered the cause this morning my diuretic for raised bp contains lactose. My spike happens every morning whether I’ve eaten or cleaned teeth or not. The one thing I do religiously is take my medication so problem solved.
 
If you are low carbing then your BP is likely to have gone down, so perhaps you need less (or even none) of the Diuretic medication.
However just becase a medication contains lactose doesn't mean there is enough lactose in it to raise BG noticeably. Look at the list of side effects of the medication instead.
The main culprit medications are (some) Steroids and Statins which are well known for raising BG.
 
ianf0ster said:
If you are low carbing then your BP is likely to have gone down, so perhaps you need less (or even none) of the Diuretic medication.
However just becase a medication contains lactose doesn't mean there is enough lactose in it to raise BG noticeably. Look at the list of side effects of the medication instead.
The main culprit medications are (some) Steroids and Statins which are well known for raising BG.
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Someone mentioned a rise in blood sugar can be a side effect of a couple of the drugs I’m on. I haven’t gone through info with drugs for a while as I’ve been on them for about 5 years. I’m naughty and chuck most of packaging as I sort my drugs. Should be picking up a new batch tomorrow and will scour the information leaflets to see if I can find a culprit
 
In Response said:
Are you sure the toothpaste or mouthwash has anything to do with it?
Could it be foot on the floor?
Or if you see the spike on a Libre, could it be a false spike caused by the hot water in the shower?
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I was beginning to think I was the only one that gets a spike after taking a shower! I can go from 7.5 to 11.5 just by having a shower. If I wake up with a low BG, I don't take anything to correct it as I know my shower will provide the boost I need.
 
sue512 said:
I’ve never considered if these could affect blood sugars but I’ve been getting a spike up to 9-13 most mornings now, even on the days I’ve skipped breakfast. I do drink decaf coffee with milk and have been following a low carb high fat diet for the last 6 weeks. Any ideas?
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Hi, like yourself I too have higher spikes in the mornings and have struggled to understand why. Asking advice from my diabetic nurse who said that I am one of those people whose body kick starts in the morning to face the daily tasks and that as a result my blood sugar levels are higher, even though I've not yet eaten and had a drink.
When I test a couple of hours after awaking my levels are at where I expected.
 
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