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My Low GI diet, counting the calories, and surviving with carbs

Andy12345 said:
huh? whats relative?
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It means different things to different people. For example, for some people, simply the act of having to take a couple of metformin tablets would make them think that the disease is ruling their lives, because they have to do it every day. To many others however, it's just no big deal.

I have heard people with no legs say that it is not going to affect their lives. Well, obviously it does affect their mobility but what they mean is that they are going to try and find a way of continuing what they did before as best they can. It's more an attitude.
 
Yorksman said:
It means different things to different people. For example, for some people, simply the act of having to take a couple of metformin tablets would make them think that the disease is ruling their lives, because they have to do it every day. To many others however, it's just no big deal.

I have heard people with no legs say that it is not going to affect their lives. Well, obviously it does affect their mobility but what they mean is that they are going to try and find a way of continuing what they did before as best they can. It's more an attitude.
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lol, but i asked douglas what HE meant by it, so yes although it was "relative" it was only relative to him :)


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douglas99 said:
I mean if pot noodle, or instant oats is all that's on the dive boat, my BS will still be good.
I need to eat to dive, it's simply fuel on those days.
So I eat, and enjoy the day.
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I went to a four day festival and was torn between the many types of fisch on offer and the fact that they were all on fresh white crusty rolls.

A couple per day didn't seem to hurt though.

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douglas99 said:
Unless you believe all our BS levels increase in the same way, to the same foods, it would indeed seem to be very relative.

Yorksman - 'A couple per day didn't seem to hurt though..

From one of my previous posts.
' leek and potato soup, quite sweet, with a bread roll,
tuna sandwich, quite a hefty white seeded bread, tuna salad filling,
small side salad,
and tortilla chips. I left half the bread crusts.
Tested about 1 and 1/2 hours, to an hour later.
5.7, '

That's why I believe in the importance of testing, and finding a diet that works for the individual.
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And for the vast majority of T2 diabetics who do not have testing strips on prescription? Should they give white bread rolls a try because we're all different? Or would it perhaps be more sensible to tell them that it is highly likely that white bread rolls will spike their blood sugars and are best avoided?
 
equipoise said:
And for the vast majority of T2 diabetics who do not have testing strips on prescription? Should they give white bread rolls a try because we're all different? Or would it perhaps be more sensible to tell them that it is highly likely that white bread rolls will spike their blood sugars and are best avoided?
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excellent point
 
telling someone its highly likely white bread will give them a bg spike and its best avoided is treating them like children?

is this not a forum for people that want advice and opinion on diabetes?

do they not benefit from peoples advice?

when i first came here, i didn't know what to eat or anything else, imagine if i were told well it depends, everyones different, ill treat you as an adult and let you find out for yourself, i would have gone away having not benefitted one bit, by these rules of treating people like adults, we cannot give advice at all, we cannot give an opinion without also giving different opinions we don't have, we cannot state any medical facts as there is always someone that can show a different medical opinion, we cannot tell someone not to eat a packet of haribos a day because there is a diabetic somewhere who eats them each day and keeps good numbers, is wearing a seat belt when driving a good idea? when i know someone who had a car accident whilst not wearing theirs and was absolutely fine

white bread is bad for our healths regardless of diabetes or not, its junk! plain and simple, theres no debate, so why oh why would it be reasonable to come onto a diabetes forum and suggest eating it is an option for controlling diabetes? when we all know that in most cases it will cause a bg spike
 
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I'm glad you've found a diet that works for you Douglas but it seems to almost be a 'Boast' about eating whatever you like and holding apparently good BG numbers-don't you think that this is highly confusing for the newly diagnosed who may have a HbA1c in double figures and no access to test strips...Blogs are all well and good but how does this help anyone? You're all sorted-That's great! others are not so lucky and I sometimes feel you just don't get that...You could start your own blog for free on Blogspot or Wordpress without the risk of confusing newbies...Just a thought
 
, I like reading and supporting those who,wish to,share of course , how it feels when you are so traumatised and shocked , this is awful and you are newly diagnosed , often being a diabetic is another health problem for some ... It is really lovely to,see individuals gain confidence and gain a sense of relief as they feel there is a place of support ....I don't take the harsh approach with people ....I think there are kinder ways of assisting people ...
After all we will only know some of a persons life story ..and I don't like making judgements because we will never know the full story ...

It is also good to hear from those who are open to sharing their feelings, how they cope and feel and few years into having the diagnoses ...
To me it gets more confusing at times ...it must feel,good to have some good control and feel well and be at a stage in life where an individual wants to,share there story ...a feel good factor ...

And of course like Douglas and others who have shared it is always good to hear when people have for the time being found a away which works for them ....

Things change all the time , we never know what is round the corner ....if someone is so pleased which how they feel they are coping then I am pleased for them ....

This site is for anyone at any stage ....what is important is that people feel,they are able to,share ....as I said before that is what makes it real life ...
 
Kat100 said:
, I like reading and supporting those who,wish to,share of course , how it feels when you are so traumatised and shocked , this is awful and you are newly diagnosed , often being a diabetic is another health problem for some ... It is really lovely to,see individuals gain confidence and gain a sense of relief as they feel there is a place of support ....I don't take the harsh approach with people ....I think there are kinder ways of assisting people ...
After all we will only know some of a persons life story ..and I don't like making judgements because we will never know the full story ...

It is also good to hear from those who are open to sharing their feelings, how they cope and feel and few years into having the diagnoses ...
To me it gets more confusing at times ...it must feel,good to have some good control and feel well and be at a stage in life where an individual wants to,share there story ...a feel good factor ...

And of course like Douglas and others who have shared it is always good to hear when people have for the time being found a away which works for them ....

Things change all the time , we never know what is round the corner ....if someone is so pleased which how they feel they are coping then I am pleased for them ....

This site is for anyone at any stage ....what is important is that people feel,they are able to,share ....as I said before that is what makes it real life ...
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Sorry Kat100 but I don't follow you. What is 'the harsh approach' and who do you think has been using it?
 
IMHO not harsh , just talking about the need for all, at whatever level or stage they are at....my post is to,support all, that is what I firmly believe in.
 
douglas99 said:
You are quite right, I like my diet, and don't seem to feel restricted by it, and still hold good numbers, but boasting?
Possibly in the same way others have 'boasted' the newcastle diet seems to have reversed their diabetes?
Personally, I found those posts inspiring as a newbie, and they helped lead me here.
So, no, I think it would be a dis-service to newbies not to share our success stories on this forum.
I would assume you and Andy equally enjoy the LCHF diet in your signature, and that is the way you choose to control diabetes for your life.

You gained control, and moved on, so did Andy, so did I.


As Andy quite rightly says, and I entirely agree with him

'is this not a forum for people that want advice and opinion on diabetes'
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Cherry picking one bit of my post as a counter argument? You missed the point of my message entirely!
 
Kat100 said:
IMHO not harsh , just talking about the need for all, at whatever level or stage they are at....my post is to,support all, that is what I firmly believe in.
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No -- sorry -- I still don't follow what you are saying, and how this is a reply to my question about what you consider 'a harsh approach' to be,. and who you think is using it.
 
equipoise said:
No -- sorry -- I still don't follow what you are saying, and how this is a reply to my question about what you consider 'a harsh approach' to be,. and who you think is using it.
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I have already given my anser to your question ...
I like to make people feel welcome and make them comfortable in posting ...that is me ..
 
equipoise said:
Is the impact of white bread rolls on BG numbers 'relative' too?
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Of course. As I wrote, I was torn between having the fish but having had to eat it on a white bread roll. It was, as stated, at a festival. Didn't have the luxury of creating a fish salad, which is what I do at home.

I think that if you can get your BG levels under control through your diet and exercise regime, these isolated instances where you eat stuff that you normally wouldn't eat, don't matter. But, if you abuse it by eating like that more frequently, you will end up back where you started.

So, now it's back to the low carb version with this tasty fish soup:

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Kat100 said:
, I like reading and supporting those who,wish to,share of course , how it feels when you are so traumatised and shocked , this is awful and you are newly diagnosed , often being a diabetic is another health problem for some ... It is really lovely to,see individuals gain confidence and gain a sense of relief as they feel there is a place of support ....I don't take the harsh approach with people ....I think there are kinder ways of assisting people ...
After all we will only know some of a persons life story ..and I don't like making judgements because we will never know the full story ...

It is also good to hear from those who are open to sharing their feelings, how they cope and feel and few years into having the diagnoses ...
To me it gets more confusing at times ...it must feel,good to have some good control and feel well and be at a stage in life where an individual wants to,share there story ...a feel good factor ...

And of course like Douglas and others who have shared it is always good to hear when people have for the time being found a away which works for them ....

Things change all the time , we never know what is round the corner ....if someone is so pleased which how they feel they are coping then I am pleased for them ....

This site is for anyone at any stage ....what is important is that people feel,they are able to,share ....as I said before that is what makes it real life ...
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That is a great post Kat :)

The whole ethos of the forum is to support one-another through the good times and bad, the majority of us are pleased when someone finds a diet that works for them and produces the desired effect.
 
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