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Scottiedug

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Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
I have Diabetes type 2 and am on Metformin but for the last 5 days my blood sugar level has been consistently over 20, it is averaging about 24.9. Is this ok or should I be worried?
Thanks, Doug
 
Hi and welcome,

I think you should be concerned. What are your levels normally, and do you feel ill at all?
 
How long have you been diagnosed and what steps have you taken to get control?
Do you know your blood results, I'm hoping that your doc has done these.
I've tagged @daisy1 to give you the new member information.
Give us some details, what you eat, what you drink, what exercise. Anything else ask away, have a read around, there is a lot of experienced T2s on here and they have been where you are now

Welcome to the forum.
 
I know you might not like this answer but I do think a visit to see a GP is required ....
You need some medical intervention .....these numbers are high , I appreciate we don't know all the facts here and neither should we ,,but what you hsve said suggests medical,support ....
Do let us know how you get one ....best wishes kat
 
@Scottiedug

Hello Doug and welcome to the forum :) I hope this will help you gain some control over your numbers. Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask all the questions you need to and someone will come and help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 130,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi. Yes, if you are often over 20 then action is required. If you are not already low-carbing then you must control the carbs. Metformin will help particularly if you are overweight but it will not have much effect on blood sugar. Can you let us know your weight/BMI and age. In the meantime you should see the GP and discuss your medication
 
I know you might not like this answer but I do think a visit to see a GP is required ....
You need some medical intervention .....these numbers are high , I appreciate we don't know all the facts here and neither should we ,,but what you hsve said suggests medical,support ....
Do let us know how you get one ....best wishes kat

Thanks for all your help. My full story is this. I was on normal Metformin but had very bad diarrhoea so I was put on slow release Metformin. Unfortunately I was put on the wrong dosage, 500Mg a day instead of 2000Mg a day. I have been on the correct dosage now for a week but my blood sugar readings are still ranging between 15.7 and 19.7. I am seeing my GP on Tuesday as I think I need an insulin injection. Doug
 
Thanks for all your help. My full story is this. I was on normal Metformin but had very bad diarrhoea so I was put on slow release Metformin. Unfortunately I was put on the wrong dosage, 500Mg a day instead of 2000Mg a day. I have been on the correct dosage now for a week but my blood sugar readings are still ranging between 15.7 and 19.7. I am seeing my GP on Tuesday as I think I need an insulin injection. Doug

I doubt they will take the quantum leap from Metformin to insulin - there are lots of oral medications to try in the meantime.

Do you keep your carbs down, or do you eat bread, pasta, potatoes? And how is your weight?

Many of us have had excellent results by dropping the major carbs (as above), and losing a few pounds. For me, the improvement was quite dramatic, quite quickly. My details are in my signature.
 
I doubt they will take the quantum leap from Metformin to insulin - there are lots of oral medications to try in the meantime.

Do you keep your carbs down, or do you eat bread, pasta, potatoes? And how is your weight?

Many of us have had excellent results by dropping the major carbs (as above), and losing a few pounds. For me, the improvement was quite dramatic, quite quickly. My details are in my signature.

Thanks for your response, I will see what GP says on Tuesday. Doug
 
Thanks for all your help. My full story is this. I was on normal Metformin but had very bad diarrhoea so I was put on slow release Metformin. Unfortunately I was put on the wrong dosage, 500Mg a day instead of 2000Mg a day. I have been on the correct dosage now for a week but my blood sugar readings are still ranging between 15.7 and 19.7. I am seeing my GP on Tuesday as I think I need an insulin injection. Doug
I hope the appointment goes well for you tuesday.
I found metformin takes 3 weeks for it to kick in, diet is more important and will reduce your BG more
I really would cut the major carbs, grain and grain product, starch veg and sugary stuff including fruit/juice
it’s a long page and a few good video’s
http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf
For me, the more carbs we eat the more carbs we want. they don’t give up easy
http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarb101/a/firstweek.htm
 
Why not try making some of the dietary changes, and measure the effects on your blood sugar levels, BEFORE you meet the GP on Tuesday? It will give him more information to work with when deciding how your treatment might be changed.
 
Yes go and see the gp . Mine at first was 13-16 I even made a leap to 28. I am on metformin as well. I take 1 tablet twice a day. It's hard work and it's taken till 2 months for it to kick in. Carry imodeim around with you as the tablets can have a horrible affect on your stomach . Good luck with your gp.
 
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