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New dianosis - confused

just a little switch or two sweet potato is just as bad for carbs. sweet potato has 20 per 100g potato has 20/21 depending how its cooked.turnip and carrot is a lot lower. wraps are better than bread but at 14/12 depending on type.

relax he is not going into acidosis you would have seen a very different reaction in the hospital. take a very deep breath. and get him to relax. as long has he gets control he will be fine. its those that pretend that its not there that suffer.

his meds could he be swapped onto another type diabetes as a side effect is pretty heavy duty.
his weight needs to come down low carbing in general is a pain free way.
smoking vapping im really sorry but that has to stop. its not going to bea big issue with his bg but the things that diabetes affects smoking will make much worse.

try swapping stuff slowly. and dont worry once he gets an understanding of his condition its pretty easy to control.
 
Thanks again.

He is going to discuss his meds with his CPN on monday ultimately it's the psychiatrist who would look at changing them but the CPN can liase with her and ask for a review. Changing meds is a scary prospect though as we have only just recovered from the relapse he had when she stopped one of his meds 18 months ago. It sucks that when you finally find a combination of meds that allow you to live a normal life they make you ill, all the high end psychiatric drugs seem to be pretty toxic in one way or another, it's a balancing act but so far diabetes is looking easier to manage and live with than his mental illness sonetimes there are no good options just some that are less bad than others.

He was a heavy smoker so changing to the vape is a big step forward, the plan has always been to use it to help him quit altogether, but if it's not going to impact on blood sugar then now is not the right time to do that with so many other llifestlye changes that are more pressing. I'm not going to push that one at all right now.
 
Also for eating or lack of... set alarm clocks on phones.
My hubby prepares my food and leaves in fridge for me. I have absolutely no hunger at all and would not think of eating unless 1) he left food for me but 2) alarm click to remind me each day.....

Mines only on my phone that is with me constantly but it is a huge help that I have something to remind me to eat. And that he prepares it... as sadly I will feed my dog but nothing triggers eating for me.. not due to anorexia or mental illness though, just the way my stomachand brain never say "feed me".... lol...
 
Thats not a bad idea about reminder on phone. I generally leave meals pre prepared when I'm at work but if he's not well he doesn't always think to eat them, it's not anorexia, he just either struggles to initiate anything when unwell or his thinking is so jumbled basic activities become very difficult. He works shifts though so doesn't necisarily have regular meal times.

Wanted to ask when aiming for under10% carbs is that for the meal as a whole or each Ingredient in it?
 
Willberry said:
Wanted to ask when aiming for under10% carbs is that for the meal as a whole or each Ingredient in it?
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Less than 10% (or preferably 5%) carbs is what you should be looking for in all ingredients, or if it is a ready meal as the total.
But some things like ketchup, sauces or gravies could have a higher carb percentage, but that won't matter too much as you wouldn't use much.
It depends on how low carb you want to go. Some on here are very low carb, eating less than 20 gms of carbs a day. Others eat more. I don't actually measure my carb intake, but I think I usually eat 150-200 gms of carbs a day which is ok for me.
 
Willberry said:
Thanks for everyones input it is really helpful. So far today omelet for breakfast, ham salad wrap and watermellon for lunch, planning cottage pie with sweet potato top for tea and going to attempt a cake with almond flour.

Hubby keeps realising things that he can't eat and I keep suggesting tasty things he can. On the plus side we started cutting out refined sugar on Tuesday when his CPN told him his blood sugar was high and he needed to see his GP and I've already lost a few pounds so wouldn't be surprised if he has too.

The more I learn about diabetes the more I realise that a lot of the things we had put down to side effects of his meds may have actually been diabetes. Sleepiness, hunger, night sweats. He's also gone through episodes of vomiting regularly over the last few years and something in the back of my mind is telling me that vomiting is associated with ketoacidosis - the body removing stomach acid in an atemp to correct it's ph if I remember rightly.
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I would replace sweet potatoes with Celeriac.
Watermelon is high in sugar.

Go for low glycemic vegetables (above ground) ie broccoli, cauliflower, spinach, cauliflower, Water Cress, kale, red peppers, Brussel sprouts, aubergine, okra, cabbage etc.

Limit carrots, peas, beans, brown rice, whole meal brown bread.

Avoid potatoes, white bread, pasta, white rice, pasta, noodles, and starchy vegetables like sweetcorn, squash, parsnips.

Use butter (not margarine), cold pressed rapeseed oil, avocado oil, olive oil (not cheap vegetable, corn or sunflower oils).

Lean cuts of meats, salmon, eggs, walnuts.
 
acs1951 said:
I notice it is said above that skimmed milk is bad. Why? and what about semi skimmed or Soya milk? I was told just to avoid full fat milk which i had not drunk for 20 years anyway.
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If you look at the ingredients in skimmed milk, it is just Lactose, which is a sugar, and water. So sugar water.
Full fat milk has more fat so less of it is carbohydrate. Double cream has even more fat so the magic number of grams of carbohydrate per 100 ml is even lower.

Who told you to avoid full fat milk?
This used to be conventional wisdom that said a low fat diet was healthy, eat plenty of carbohydrates, avoid full fat anything, eat chemical spreads instead of butter.

The LCHF brigade (me included) are firmly committed to high fat. For many this reduces weight, reduces BG, reduces appetite.
 
I vaped have for 3 years and it is better for me than smoking but not as good as giving up nicotine completely which I have tried and failed for the last 20 years.

With all the other things going on I would put vaping way way down on the list of things to tackle.

With diet changes some people like to dive in and some like to test the water. Having a meter and self testing will really help understand what foods apart from the obvious your husband needs to restrict or eliminate.
 
Ahh its so confusing I was sure the foods section on here had recommended watermellon and melon as a low sugar options for fruit, was so pleased as it's one of hubbys favourites. Anyway we are 100% better that we were this time last week when we didn't even know about his diabetes and Rome wasn't built in a day.
 
Willberry said:
Ahh its so confusing I was sure the foods section on here had recommended watermellon and melon as a low sugar options for fruit, was so pleased as it's one of hubbys favourites. Anyway we are 100% better that we were this time last week when we didn't even know about his diabetes and Rome wasn't built in a day.
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I also recommend getting rid of all sugars from your kitchen and replace them with Stevia (it’s the recommended sweetener for diabetics and it’s 200x sweeter than sugar but it’s zero sugar, zero carbs, zero calories).

Don’t use canderel, aspartame and other unhealthy sweeteners made of fructose!!!

However if you can avoid using Stevia, the better!
 
Willberry said:
Ahh its so confusing I was sure the foods section on here had recommended watermellon and melon as a low sugar options for fruit, was so pleased as it's one of hubbys favourites. Anyway we are 100% better that we were this time last week when we didn't even know about his diabetes and Rome wasn't built in a day.
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Avoid all fruits except raspberries, strawberries, blackberries, and a small portion of blueberries.
 
set your carb target and then cater to it.i like a small orange with a lump of cheese i know its 1/5 of my carbs but i dont care. im on 40 but just starting i would be aiming around 150 and then reduce as his body adjusts.
re vaping obviously with a serious mental health condition keeping him stable is the priority. but in the long term nicotine and diabetes will damage his blood vessels and nerves with all the associated complications.
weight loss with the lchf diet is not going to be to tough. the change in his health as it improves may impact his mental health positively.
 
His Grandads just checked his blood glucose on his own machine and they are 20.8 about 2 hours after eating! I thought we had done so well today :-( just waiting for 111 to call us back for some advice.
 
Now I’m really confused, my nurse said I could eat carbs, I have shredded wheat for breakfast, whole meal sandwich for lunch, with carrot sticks and apple and evening meal I have like brown rice with something, or sweet potato etc etc I have cut sugar out from tea cereal etc ans pick the bread wth lowest sugar per slice, if I don’t have carbs where do I get energy?
 
RobertHatch7 said:
Now I’m really confused, my nurse said I could eat carbs, I have shredded wheat for breakfast, whole meal sandwich for lunch, with carrot sticks and apple and evening meal I have like brown rice with something, or sweet potato etc etc I have cut sugar out from tea cereal etc ans pick the bread wth lowest sugar per slice, if I don’t have carbs where do I get energy?
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Most advice from nurses is worse than useless - my diabetes advice team dietician told me how good baked potato and beans would be.
Diabetes is all about carbs - and if you eat the high starch veges, grains, sugary fruits, it will spike your glucose levels dreadfully so the rice potato and cereal are going to push your blood glucose high.
 
You have made a start @Willberry , there will be hiccups and that high bg may or may not have been the result of what was eaten, it depends on what it was before eating, also if there was any residual dampness, from washing hands, on the finger that was used for testing. Now you have something to work on, I would avoid the pasta for the time being or put a very little in a cheesy dish just to use it up without wasting it. Shopping will take twice as long for the first little while until you build a new pattern of eating but it will get better, easier and quicker.
 
Hi @RobertHatch7, you will find that your body will switch to using fats for energy. It stores the excess sugar as fat in a time of plenty so that it has some reserves for a time of less food available. If you reduce your carb intake then your body will start to get out those reserves. There are very few foods that have no carbs, and fats take longer for the body to digest but will be used to provide you with energy. You will find that by cutting out the carbs you have more energy and feel less dozy after eating.
 
Thank you.

111 never called back so I guess the question of can this wait to see the GP today is answered.

Plan for today is bacon and eggs for breakfast, scotch eggs with coconut milk yoghurt and raspberries for lunch and cauliflour and broccoli cheese for tea. Also for him to see his GP and for us to get a blood gloucose monitor so we can start to get a handle on this. I've read the values we are aiming for but for now if its reading really high before a meal how much increase after eating is normal/acceptable?
 
Willberry said:
Thank you.

111 never called back so I guess the question of can this wait to see the GP today is answered.

Plan for today is bacon and eggs for breakfast, scotch eggs with coconut milk yoghurt and raspberries for lunch and cauliflour and broccoli cheese for tea. Also for him to see his GP and for us to get a blood gloucose monitor so we can start to get a handle on this. I've read the values we are aiming for but for now if its reading really high before a meal how much increase after eating is normal/acceptable?
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Sounds like a good days meals nothing you need to cut out in those yes some will say scotch eggs have a breadcrumb coating but the amount is not something I would personally worry about but the strict low carbers may
 
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