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New Flash Glucose Monitoring from Abbott - Bloodless Testing

Discussion in 'Type 1 Diabetes' started by Omnipod, Sep 2, 2014.

  1. hale710

    hale710 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    It's not the same as a CGM, but not being able to sustain a CGM for an extended period I'd be willing to give this a go as a substitute. It still gives you profiles, just no alarms etc
     
  2. AlexMBrennan

    AlexMBrennan Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    The advantage would be that the device is cheaper and sensors are smaller and last longer; that is to say, I think it's great that the technology is improving but I don't think this will be the game changer I think it's made out to be.
     
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  3. CarbsRok

    CarbsRok Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Dexcom sensors last on average 19 days and cost £46.50. Quite often though we can get the sensors to 3 weeks use. Sensors also give warnings of steep drops plus hypo warning signs.
     
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    Not as bad as I thought, in time the price will drop once other manufacturers compete. Thanks CarbsRok.
     
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    CarbsRok Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Saw this on another forum as well.
    So does that mean like a sensor it is 20 mins behind a finger poke? If so it's useless for people using MDI or a pump.
     
  6. ElyDave

    ElyDave Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't say useless at all.

    Not when you consider that a finger prick test could be out by up to 20% anyway. During rapidly changing blood sugar events how often will you be finger pricking? Maybe once every 15-20 mins, hopefully not for long.

    And even you are looking to work out a meal time bolus, 20mins delay on a +/-20% error is not going to be significant either.

    I don't think it's being sold as a replacement for blood tests, more as a CGM-lite, which I think is a well positioned niche. Personally, at those prices I'm very tempted.
     
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  7. Omnipod

    Omnipod Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    No pricing has been released at all so the prices quoted in this thread copied from other forums are NOT correct. I spoke to Abbott today and they have never released any information on pricing.
    Also, its not a CGM. Its a meter
     
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  8. Hooked

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    Fingers crossed the sensor costs are a bit cheaper than that, otherwise I'll not be able to afford it.
    Will be very interesting to hear what the first users on the forum think of it once it's finally released.
     
  9. Britishbob

    Britishbob Family member · Well-Known Member

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    The lag time is 5 mins average - interstitial fluid sits next to muscle where it's used!!!
    Not tethered like CGM and no finger prick calibration also the reports you see are very good
     
  10. AlexMBrennan

    AlexMBrennan Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Dunno, I thought the artificial pancreas trials were going rather well - and they are ultimately just a CGM (which BG readings that lag 15min behind), a pump and a bit of software.
     
  11. Britishbob

    Britishbob Family member · Well-Known Member

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    Looks cheaper than a burger meal or some posh coffee
     
  12. ElyDave

    ElyDave Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I'm frimly in the yes camp Bob, I think it's great step forward and I can't wait to see the prices.

    Edit, that's firmly.

    I thunk Frimly would very much not be a forward looking place
     
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  13. noblehead

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    Seems rather odd that they haven't got the pricing in place seeing that it's going to be available on the 15th September :confused:
     
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  14. Britishbob

    Britishbob Family member · Well-Known Member

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    Prices quoted by CarbsRoc are correct - No VAT for Diabetics
     
  15. Hooked

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    How do you know they are correct? I can't find info on their website.
     
  16. Omnipod

    Omnipod Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Yes. If you can provide the prices directly from Abbot, Id believe it.

    I spoke to Abbot and they have confirmed that no pricing has been provided by them at all. Abbot are trying to make this accessible to everyone and I doubt that this disc will cost as much as a Dexcom CGM sensor. If that was the case, then people would go for a CGM instead. Makes no sense at all to charge £48 per disc.
    Abbot make Omnipod. A pod only costs £18 each and a pod has more parts and electronics in it than a disc. I think people are jumping the gun here. Lets wait and see.
     
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  17. hale710

    hale710 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Thing is, even at £48 per disc it is cheaper long term than a CGM. For those of use who can benefit from a middle ground ie have hypo/hyper awareness it could be a great tool for tracking trends.

    I look forward to the pricing being released, but if they're in the same sort of region as stated on here i will be self funding for a while :)
     
  18. Engineer88

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    Dunno how you can say that @hale710 I get 21 days normally out of a sensor at 46 and thats a worst case?
     
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  19. hale710

    hale710 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Your on animas. I was allowed animas, so I've got the Medtronic pump. I've done all the number crunching, dexcom is the most expensive way for ME to do it as I'd have to buy everything. Even assuming extended sensor life. Medtronic is cheaper as I have the pump, but still will cost me between 2500 and 3500 a year.
     
  20. Engineer88

    Engineer88 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    That sucks. Didnt know you hadnt been allowed Vibe.
     
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