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New found dessert.

SuNuman

SuNuman

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Being diabetic lol.
I have been buying sugar free digestives from Asda which I can tolerate. I make crumbs out of these by bashing with a rolling pin in a small piece of foil folded; then put into a bowl, a small scoop of ice cream or fresh cream and place strawberries on top. I can tolerate a small scoop of ice cream but you could use fresh cream with sugar free jelly. I feel like I’m having a naughty cheeky dessert. Just thought I’d share.
 
SuNuman said:
I have been buying sugar free digestives from Asda which I can tolerate. I make crumbs out of these by bashing with a rolling pin in a small piece of foil folded; then put into a bowl, a small scoop of ice cream or fresh cream and place strawberries on top. I can tolerate a small scoop of ice cream but you could use fresh cream with sugar free jelly. I feel like I’m having a naughty cheeky dessert. Just thought I’d share.
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Unfortunately like most things made with grain, the biscuits are 2/3rds carbohydrate, so not really suitable for a type 2 diabetic.
 
SuNuman said:
I have been buying sugar free digestives from Asda which I can tolerate. I make crumbs out of these by bashing with a rolling pin in a small piece of foil folded; then put into a bowl, a small scoop of ice cream or fresh cream and place strawberries on top. I can tolerate a small scoop of ice cream but you could use fresh cream with sugar free jelly. I feel like I’m having a naughty cheeky dessert. Just thought I’d share.
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Sadly you are having a naughty dessert.

It’s not just sugar that raises glucose. All carbs do (except fibre) and biscuits like these are two thirds carbs. Most commercial ice creams are high sugar.

Also the ingredients they use to avoid the “sugar” label vary enormously. Many times it’s something like maltitol or maltodexrose used instead which for many effects blood glucose as much as sugar does. Misleading and dangerous labelling imo.

How much it raises you personally (have you tested it a few times?) and how much you are ok with it raising you is personal but it’s a poor option to recommend for most type 2. Sorry.
 
In fairness I don’t think the OP was advocating that all T2s would be ok with this dessert just that it is one that agrees with her. Looking at it I could probably have it as well particularly as I am ok with, for example, bread, potatoes and pasta however I would need to test it to determine that. Whilst I appreciate many T2 diabetics cannot tolerate too many carbs there are some, me included, who can eat foods that have more carbs without affecting their BS too much.
 
Daphne917 said:
In fairness I don’t think the OP was advocating that all T2s would be ok with this dessert just that it is one that agrees with her. Looking at it I could probably have it as well particularly as I am ok with, for example, bread, potatoes and pasta however I would need to test it to determine that. Whilst I appreciate many T2 diabetics cannot tolerate too many carbs there are some, me included, who can eat foods that have more carbs without affecting their BS too much.
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Quite possibly true and to be honest I did assume that was the viewpoint. However I stand by my point recommending such an item is going against the typical results that will be seen, even whilst there are exceptions to be had (real or assumed). As I said it also depends on whether a person is happy to push the limits or prefers limit the potential troubles. Just so long as we make our choices knowledgeably, not mistakenly we get to make our own decisions.
 
HSSS said:
Quite possibly true and to be honest I did assume that was the viewpoint. However I stand by my point recommending such an item is going against the typical results that will be seen, even whilst there are exceptions to be had (real or assumed). As I said it also depends on whether a person is happy to push the limits or prefers limit the potential troubles. Just so long as we make our choices knowledgeably, not mistakenly we get to make our own decisions.
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I didn’t read the post as recommending the dessert just stating what it was and that she enjoyed it. Ultimately we either know, or are still learning, what our tolerances are and are capable of making an informed decision as to what we eat. It could be argued that I am guilty of offering advice that can be construed as encouraging people to eat pasta when, if they want to try it, I suggest that they cook, cool and reheat it to see what affect that has on their BS. However I am only giving them the benefit of my experience and it is up to them whether they eat it or not.
 
What about full fat greek yogurt,peanut butter and only if you can Bluberries. Stir it up, it is yummy.
 
Daphne917 said:
In fairness I don’t think the OP was advocating that all T2s would be ok with this dessert just that it is one that agrees with her. Looking at it I could probably have it as well particularly as I am ok with, for example, bread, potatoes and pasta however I would need to test it to determine that. Whilst I appreciate many T2 diabetics cannot tolerate too many carbs there are some, me included, who can eat foods that have more carbs without affecting their BS too much.
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Thank you. This is exactly what I was saying. I’m not suggesting you eat the whole packet but it you crush one or two and you can tolerate; go for it. 2 digestives and a small scoop of ice cream with strawberries gives me a < 6.5 2 hours after; which I am happy with.
 
Daphne917 said:
I didn’t read the post as recommending the dessert just stating what it was and that she enjoyed it. Ultimately we either know, or are still learning, what our tolerances are and are capable of making an informed decision as to what we eat. It could be argued that I am guilty of offering advice that can be construed as encouraging people to eat pasta when, if they want to try it, I suggest that they cook, cool and reheat it to see what affect that has on their BS. However I am only giving them the benefit of my experience and it is up to them whether they eat it or not.
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Exactly. I shall not share again on what I can tolerate (which makes life as a diabetic that bit easier). I probably won’t comment again full-stop to b fair after receiving such negative comments; but to u; thank you. X
 
SuNuman said:
Exactly. I shall not share again on what I can tolerate (which makes life as a diabetic that bit easier). I probably won’t comment again full-stop to b fair after receiving such negative comments; but to u; thank you. X
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I think refusing to post at all is a bit of an overreaction here (I assume I’m the one who upset you most). That was not my intention. I acknowledged your intent was good and it may suit you personally. It would be a shame to lose your contribution.

I was trying to point out for the benefit of others not as lucky as you on what’s tolerated (or that don’t test to check) that it’s probably not a great suggestion for most of us type 2, nice as it may be. It can be confusing for newbies when recommendations like this are made. It wasn’t an attack on you personally.
 
I did not mean to upset the OP, but biscuits and ice cream - unless I make them myself from low or no carb ingredients are just not something I'd eat as I'd have gone sky high in the first years after diagnosis and would put on weight so very easily these days.
I have read so many times of people finding their levels high or feeling unwell after trying something which others can tolerate or have suggested without testing assuming it to be OK - most notably 'sugar free' products - I thought it safer to point out the carb content of the biscuits rather than write nothing.
 
SuNuman said:
Exactly. I shall not share again on what I can tolerate (which makes life as a diabetic that bit easier). I probably won’t comment again full-stop to b fair after receiving such negative comments; but to u; thank you. X
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That would be a shame as you were only stating that you’d found a dessert that worked for you. Your experience shows that we are all different and proves that it is possible for some people, me included, to eat slightly more carbs and still have good BS readings. At the end of the day it is up to the individual to decide as to whether or not they try your dessert
 
HSSS said:
I think refusing to post at all is a bit of an overreaction here (I assume I’m the one who upset you most). That was not my intention. I acknowledged your intent was good and it may suit you personally. It would be a shame to lose your contribution.

I was trying to point out for the benefit of others not as lucky as you on what’s tolerated (or that don’t test to check) that it’s probably not a great suggestion for most of us type 2, nice as it may be. It can be confusing for newbies when recommendations like this are made. It wasn’t an attack on you personally.
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She wasn’t recommending it to anybody just stating that it worked for her. I had a jacket potato the other day and my BS was at 8.00 after one hour and back down to 5.8 after two hours but I wouldn’t suggest anybody else try it unless they either know their tolerances or test to see the effect. Ultimately it is up to the individual to decide whether or not they try a particular food but if they don’t know it’s possible for some people to eat higher carb foods they may think that they will always have to eat very low carb which, as we have seen from numerous posts on here, some people find difficult.
 
Just pointing out that an alternative opinion, or questioning a post is not the same as disliking someone or what they said.

Forums are sometimes difficult places to express opinions and questions on in the same as we would in real life.

Remember that 99% of responses are not personal attacks. If you feel attacked, use the report button and a mod will help.
 
I know from experience that the recipe would not be suitable for me. Me and digestives do not get on well. What I felt to be a possible problem was that a newbie reading the post will see the Low Sugar descriptor for the biscuits, and feel that this made it less harmful therefore ok. Newbies tend not to eat to meter in the early days, so may not realise this could be problematic. Old lags will know how to process the info.

The problem goes back to what newbies are advised (sometimes, if they are lucky) by their HCP is to avoid sugary foods and cakes, with no mention of carbs. Even NHS dieticians give this advice out as part of Eatwell (or that fancy Live Well name they call it in the NHS).
 
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