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GravyDavey

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Aaaargh newly diagnosed a couple of days before crimbo with a HbA1c of 52 .
Been reading up last couple of days and got a fair idea of what I need to do/eat .
With that in mind I've just been down to Tesco's to get some shopping . Now I know bread is a big sin and with that in mind I was looking for some wholegrain stuff but couldn't find any
With that in mind I wouldn't mind having a go at making my own bread . Have sourced a bread maker and just need a good recipe to work from . Has anybody got a nice and simple low carb bread recipe ? Doesn't need to be anything fancy , just cheap as poss and easy to make .
Thanks Dave
 
Aaaargh newly diagnosed a couple of days before crimbo with a HbA1c of 52 .
Been reading up last couple of days and got a fair idea of what I need to do/eat .
With that in mind I've just been down to Tesco's to get some shopping . Now I know bread is a big sin and with that in mind I was looking for some wholegrain stuff but couldn't find any
With that in mind I wouldn't mind having a go at making my own bread . Have sourced a bread maker and just need a good recipe to work from . Has anybody got a nice and simple low carb bread recipe ? Doesn't need to be anything fancy , just cheap as poss and easy to make .
Thanks Dave


Hi @GravyDavey (neat user name btw),

Welcome to the forum.

Have you had a look at the keto bread from the dietdoctor.com website. Don't know if it will work with a breadmaker, though.

Alternatively, if you are going to buy bread. Protein bread (around 10g-15g of carbs per 100g) is a better choice for T2s on low-carb than wholegrain bread (which has a similar carb content to regular white bread).
 
Welcome to the forum GravyDavey. As this is your first post I’ll tag in @daisy1 for her useful info post.
I know of two commercially made breads that are lower in carbs than ‘normal’ bread. One is HiLo which is a small loaf with small slices of around 5g carbs per slice and then there’s Burgen soy and linseed bread, large loaf with larger slices, around 11g carbs per slice.
 
@GravyDavey welcome! You’ll find tons of support and ideas here.
I am in US, and found La Tortilla Factory Low Carb high fiber tortillas on another site. They make great wraps. Also, if you like a quick bread (I do) there are some flax bread recipes here in Food,Nutrition>Low Carb Diet> um, low carb recipes I think. The adaptation I make takes longer to eat than it did to mix up, and to my palate is delicious if a bit sticky when chewed. Seems to keep very well in the frig.
 
Low carb bread is expensive to make and doesn't always work with the usual methods of bread production.
As you are just newly diagnosed, though with a not very high Hba1c, mine was 91 at diagnosis, you might want to hang fire on bread making for a few months, as it is only too easy to overdo freshly baked bread.
I have been making bread in the last half of this year, after 18 months from diagnosis and a year of normal readings, and - somewhere - I have a record of my experiments.
I have added, to my usual recipe but with some of the white bread flour swapped for rye flour, psyllium husk powder, ground almonds, coconut flour, and baking powder to help with the rising, and I plan to make tiny loaves in muffin tins to ration it out.
I will find my recipe book once the flurry of Christmas is settling so I could let you have my latest successful variant.
Wholemeal is not really a better option - the brown version of any high carb food doesn't help to reduce blood glucose for me and a lot of other people. Don't substitute sweet potato for ordinary - the clue is in the name.....
 
Thanks for all the advice .
Bread is s particular weakness/vice of mine so thought it would be the thing I would tackle first . Followed closely by potatoes and pastry . The latter I will just cut out but I would still like some bread if possible .
 
@GravyDavey
Hello Dave and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful and interesting.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
LivLife bread is available from Ocado.com or Waitrose.

Only 3.8g of carbs per slice.

HiLo bread also available from Sainsbury’s.
 
LivLife bread is available from Ocado.com or Waitrose.

Only 3.8g of carbs per slice.

HiLo bread also available from Sainsbury’s.
Some Sainsbury’s (including mine which is huge so not size dependant) have ditched HiLo and use hovis low carb instead which whilst lower than typical breads isn’t actually all that low. Next time I’m near a Waitrose I’ll pop in :)
 
Aaaargh newly diagnosed a couple of days before crimbo with a HbA1c of 52 .
Been reading up last couple of days and got a fair idea of what I need to do/eat .
With that in mind I've just been down to Tesco's to get some shopping . Now I know bread is a big sin and with that in mind I was looking for some wholegrain stuff but couldn't find any
With that in mind I wouldn't mind having a go at making my own bread . Have sourced a bread maker and just need a good recipe to work from . Has anybody got a nice and simple low carb bread recipe ? Doesn't need to be anything fancy , just cheap as poss and easy to make .
Thanks Dave
Tesco’s make a high protein loaf which is 10g carbs per slice. I find that one slice doesn’t cause my bs to rise and one slice is enough if you load it with filling
 
Aaaargh newly diagnosed a couple of days before crimbo with a HbA1c of 52 .
Been reading up last couple of days and got a fair idea of what I need to do/eat .
With that in mind I've just been down to Tesco's to get some shopping . Now I know bread is a big sin and with that in mind I was looking for some wholegrain stuff but couldn't find any
With that in mind I wouldn't mind having a go at making my own bread . Have sourced a bread maker and just need a good recipe to work from . Has anybody got a nice and simple low carb bread recipe ? Doesn't need to be anything fancy , just cheap as poss and easy to make .
Thanks Dave
Welcome. You have come to the best place. On the odd occasion I have a slice of bread I have burgen bread which is about 10g carbs per slice. It doesn't spike me. But I only have one slice. With eggs and bacon so no additional.carbs.
 
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hi Dave. This is off topic for your specific question but since you are new (welcome) I thought I would share with you my first 50 days blog. Some people find it helpful. It's not advice but personal reflections on my own experience earlier this year. Good luck on the hunt for bread...personally I've decided to live without it but that doesn't work for everyone.
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/blog-entry/type-2-my-first-50-days.2190/
 
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