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ackroyd

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Hello,This is all very new to me and came as a shock due to go into hospital for a new hip on my pre- assesment checks it was discovered that i had a blood sugar reading of 14 the op was put off until had this sorted 2 weeks later I got a new date. The first visit to my diabetic nurse was informative to say the least and after a fasting blood test the sugar level had come down to 7! I am now on "metformin" and due to start a satin next week. I am about 3 months into diabetes and have found that there are people all over the place who will offer advice some good and some not so good. So that is basically me apart from being 54 and a bit overweight oh and male!
I have a question or two- Is it normal not to have shown any symptoms for diabetes in the period before being diaognosed?
Do I need a blood blood glucose meter?
What should my Blood Sugar readings/results be after taking the prescribed drugs ( ie what will normal be for me)?
I look forward to any reply thanks for taking time to read my ramble!
 

JillyBoo

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:thumbup: Hi Ackroyd,

I'm also a newbie at this diabetes game and am taking statins. Unfortunately my experience with my GP and Nurse has been a complete nightmare with conflicting information. I've learnt a lot more and received more help from this web site than any where else so I highly recommend it.

I've purchased my own blood monitor as I find it difficult to manage my condition when I don't know whether my medication/diet is correct but I am fighting for either a kit or just testing strips off my GP. I started on Metformin taking one a day and then after two weeks it went to two a day. After seeing the Nurse she told me to take four a day but when I picked up my latest prescription it still had directions on it to take one a day to begin with and then rise it to two????? My GP wasn't available and the Nurse was not in the surgery on that day and six days later I'm still waiting for a call back. So don't be surprised if everything seems a little confusing, as I've previously said this web site is probably the only consistant source of reliable information that I've found.

So, sorry I'm not more help, but Hi and Welcome and keep us posted how you get on with your diabetes and new hip :wave:

Jill
 

MaryJ

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Hi ackroyd

Welcome to the best place in the world.

I didnt have any symptoms b4 diagnosis, well I thought I didn't . Then about 6 weeks into low carbing I realised the aching in my hands had gone away. I used to have to 'get them going' in the morning and thought I was starting with arthritis. Not had it since my BG levels have been under control.

In my opinion like Jillyboo has said a monitor is ESSENTIAL if you want to take control of your condition. You may become a bit obessive at the beginning but it does ease off as you learn how foods affect you, its very facinating actually.

Mary x
 

izzzi

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hi, :)

Welcome to the Forum,

If your going to buy anything to assist your getting to grips with Diabetes, you will find plenty of advice on this forum well before you go to a chemist or supermarket and pay a fortune.

The internet does have good deals etc;

I stupidly went and bought a meter from a supermarket then realized I could not afford the strips. :oops:

Good Luck.

Roy. :)
 

xyzzy

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Hi ackroyd and welcome :)

Thought I'd let you know what I did. I was diagnosed in December last year so a month later than you and using the advice I found on this forum I got my blood sugar levels back to normal within around a couple of months or so and I have also normalised my cholesterol levels and blood pressure as well. I have now lost nearly 4 stone in weight too. My doctor is very pleased how I am getting on and has advised me to keep doing what I have been doing since it's obviously working really well. Not a cure as I still have to be very careful what I eat but I feel loads better than I did. Like yourself I just take Metformin.

Diet wise its really easy. Just drastically cut down or better cut out all things with plain sugar, so biscuits, cakes, sugar in tea and coffee, pure fruit juices, non diet versions of soft drinks. Next and really importantly try halving starchy foods like rice, pasta, potatoes, bread, cereals and any other flour based products. Replace what's now missing with extra meat, fish, eggs, cheese and especially vegetables. Vegetables that grow above ground are best although most of us find carrots fine. Things like yoghurt are fine as is a small amount of fresh fruit. I find the ones that end in "berry" are the best. If you don't mind artificial sweeteners things like Diet Coke are fine to drink. On the starchy foods that are left swap try brown basmati rice instead of white and brown or tri-colour pasta. The bread that most recommend is actually Bergen soya bread but some do ok with wholemeal as well.

The above diet is close to one you would be one recommended to try by the Swedish Health service. It was introduced in that country last year and the American health service and several other countries health services recommend something very similar for Type 2 diabetics. In the UK the diet guidelines are now over 30 years old and are only gradually being updated. As the UK is lagging behind you may find what I and other forum members recommend is different to what your are told is a good diet for you follow.

Next most members would recommend you test your own blood sugar levels so yes go ahead and get one if you can't get one prescribed by your gp. Some gp's will and some won't. It's a bit of a post code lottery and we find some progressive surgeries are pro testing and others anti. I'll warn you the anti ones can sometimes be very vocally anti! If you ask and get told no then if you can afford to most members will get a meter and test themselves anyway. A meter that many people are buying at the moment is called as SD CodeFree. The meter and 50 strips will cost under £20 then new strips are just £5 per 50 which is a lot cheaper than most other meters. The cheapest place to buy is the healthcare.co.uk shop on eBay but make sure you get a UK mmol/l model and not a US mg/dl one or the numbers it shows will be confusing.

The reason testing is important is you should try and keep your blood sugars below 8ish two hours after eating any meal. Above the 8 value is where the dangers of complications do begin to occur according to diabetic experts. So if you can't test how will you now if what you are eating is keeping you safe? The problem is every diabetic is different so my earlier advice to halve starchy foods is just a rough guide. You may find you need to eat less than half (like me) or that you can eat more than half like others.

As you get into it all and read around the forum you may see people talking about carb counting. If you want to understand what that is just ask. It is a powerful weapon that a diabetic can use to control their condition and one that many of us use to great effect.

Good luck and keep asking questions.

Regards

Steve

PS Here's two good links about what's good to eat.

First is the lady doctor who's low carb / low GI recommendations seem to form the basis of what's recommended in Sweden

http://blogg.passagen.se/dahlqvistannika/?anchor=my_lowcarb_dietary_programe_in

Second is a good beginners guide to low carb regimes that are excellent for reducing blood sugar levels and losing weight.

http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf
 

daisy1

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Hi ackroyd and welcome to the forum :)
To get you started, here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. If you have any more questions, please ask, and someone will come to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS


Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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Please sign our e-petition for free testing for all type 2's; here's the link:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/petition/

Do get your friends and colleagues to sign as well.