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Newly diagnosed and baffled!

Pootle41

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Hi - I am recently diagnosed with Type 2, but have been offered very little support from my GP surgery. I have no idea what I should be eating, and feel so tired and weak all the time that I find it a struggle to do extra exercise. I have asked the Practice Nurse if I should be self-testing my levels, but she said that Type 2's had no need to do this. So, I'm left with a diagnosis, hypertension, low Vitamin B12 levels and a complete lack of information going forward. I'm on 1500mg of metformin each day.

Would you recommend buying a self testing kit?
 
Hi Pootle41, welcome to the forum, you are in the best place here with us all. There are lots of friendly people here that will help and support you, and give you some good advice. I was diagnosed in Jan this year so a newbie myself although through this site and the help of all these people I am getting there. I did not get much support and help off my doctor or diabetic nurse either, only for this site I am now learning so much. Please have a good look around the threads for some good info. There is a forum What Have You Eaten Today have a look into it as you will see lots of ideas of what to eat. As for the testing yes you need to get a meter and test 2hrs before and 2hrs after each meal at the beginning so you can get an idea of what foods are tolerable to you. We all vary a bit as to which foods spike us and which don't. Good luck :) I am sure you will get other replies as well.
 
Hi @Pootle41 Yes, a meter would probably help you see what was going on with your blood sugar.

Let me tag @daisy1 as she has some basic information about diabetes.
 
@Pootle41

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Yes, it is important to get a meter and strips so that you can control your levels. Try cutting the carbs in your diet too. Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi and welcome. Do follow Daisy's advice and do buy a meter (e.g. the low cost SD Codefree on the web). Come back with any questions as you digest where you are. We've all been thru it but you will always get a range of helpful answers on this forum from others who have diabetes.
 
Testing your blood is important to gauge what foods spike your blood sugar so you can adjust your diet accordingly. You need to test just before you eat and two hours after you've eaten. You can buy meters and supplies from Amazon or your local pharmacy. Check out this page for more info: http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes_care/blood_glucose_monitor_guide.html
Your GP surgery is likely to be keeping an eye on costs; hence not recommending (ie not providing) a blood glucose meter.
You say you're low on B12, is that because your vegetarian? I ask this as the way most people reverse their type 2 diabetes is through the LCHF lifestyle, which usually includes eating a fair bit of fatty meat. Although eggs are a great source for B12. There's plenty of info on the net and this website about Low-Carb, High-Fat diets and lifestyle.It's very worthwhile doing the research...knowledge is power, especially when talking to diabetic specialists at the surgery LOL.

Good luck.
 
Hi @Pootle41, welcome to the community. It can be a bit overwhelming at first so take it a step at a time. If you buy a meter then you can monitor your own blood and find out which foods you can no longer tolerate. Remember that foods made from cereals all contain carbohydrates whether they use whole grain or refined flour. Perhaps gluten free may work for you. Root vegetables are the power stores for plants as are seeds, keep testing to find which ones and in what amounts you can tolerate them. Vegetables that grow above ground tend to be lower in carbs. A simple spreadsheet or a diary soon shows patterns. Some people use weight to measure, personally I use various measures spoons, cups, ramekin dishes etc which I use regularly in my kitchen.
Do start an exercise programme, even if it is a few minutes each day, then a walk around the block and gradually walking further. Cram it into a lunch hour, work colleagues may surprise you, some people find them supportive others less so. You will find that as you increase the exercise you have more energy and it will help with insulin resistance. My colleagues surprised me by commenting on my weight loss before I had noticed it myself, I was not someone who regularly weighed myself particularly when I noticed the weight creeping up. Now I am known as a regular walker at lunchtime yet I still have time to be sociable.
Take control, don't let the diabetes define you, look forward and be prepared to try new things.
 
Hi, as others have said getting a meter and testing will help so much.
I was diagnosed in April, came on this site not really understanding very much, over the first few weeks I ready so much, I was on here, searching the wed or reading books pretty much all of my spare time. From it all the best advice I was given was to get a metre to test how carbs effected me. It changed my life. 3 months ago if I saw a 7 on my meter I was happy because it was low for me. By cutting carbs now if I see a 7 it's high. I felt so unwell before, worse than I realised. I now feel great. I have so much more energy.
So get a meter and cut down on carbs to a get glucose levels lower and you will feel so healthier.
Good luck x
 
Hi.
1] Buy a meter - don't even hesitate.
2] Record what you eat and the readings before and 2.5 hours after eating...you'll learn a lot from this.
3] Keep your fluid intake up around 2 litres a day (water, very diluted juice such as Robinsons)
4] Try testing before and after cereal, bread, spuds, pasta etc....and see for yourself (I don't eat these anymore unless it's a treat cause I'm doing well)
5] Pat yourself on the back for not just blindly accepting the general medical advice - you are now much better placed to take control...and you will.
6] The record you build is also a great bit of evidence to show doctors, nurses etc, that you know what you're talking about...and believe me...you will soon enough.
7] Good luck.
 
Hi Pootle41, I am also newly diagnosed with type 2.
I just turned 30 years old and it was very hard to find out that I got diabetes when I was first informed by my doctor.
It felt like the world crumbled into pieces. It in fact still feel like that sometimes :)
I had very little information on diabetes too at the start, but slowly building my knowledge and doing a lot of experiment with food, taking notes, checking my BG from time to time as well as hanging around here at the forum - reading people's experiences (very helpful). I have been able to stabilize my BG between 90 - max 160 the last two weeks with diet control. When I first found out I was over 300 and lowest 200, which was very frustrating and scary as hell remembering the possible health complication caused by it.

Anyways, get yourself a BG meter and record your results.
Your body, your experiment.

You're not alone.

XXX
 
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