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Newly diagnosed, scared and confused

Discussion in 'Newly Diagnosed' started by Red_river_, Nov 6, 2017.

  1. woodywhippet61

    woodywhippet61 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    But once you get to know what effects food has on your bgl's and you eat the same meals then you might not feel the need to test that meal.
     
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  2. Bluetit1802

    Bluetit1802 Type 2 (in remission!) · Guru

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    @Red_river_

    You asked about eggs. They are perfectly safe to eat in whatever quantities you like. They are perfect for diabetics, and no .... they won't raise cholesterol. That is old science and has long since been debunked. I eat a minimum of 2 a day.

    Have you seen this site? https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/60-seconds well worth scrolling through and reading. You will find lists of foods that are good for us and foods that aren't as good. Basically any meat, any fish, eggs, cheese, all dairy, most vegetables (not spuds) and definitely you need to cut down on fruit - and avoid fruit juices.

    I also urge you to get a meter as without one you are working blind. One will help you discover which are your personal danger foods (we all differ in this) and in what quantities it is safe to eat them, if at all.

    Adding flaxseed (ground/milled) will help enormously with constipation, plus increasing fats and drinking tons of water.
     
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    Red_river_ Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, that's true. Still lots of meals or food to test to begin with though.
     
  4. woodywhippet61

    woodywhippet61 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Sadly yes.
     
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    Red_river_ Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Thank you Bluetit ( my favourite bird together with robin :) ). No I have not got time to look at that website but I will. Will be a week tomorrow since I was diagnosed, and I have been reading lots of stuffs on this website to try to learn about diabetes. I will of course look at that soon. It's a very good idea to add seeds in anything to get more fibres thank you I will do that. Not sure about increasing fat normally I avoid it. Will drink more water too. Thank you. Oh, and now I can have eggs for breakfast as I've been having porridge that I am never keen on! Hurray!!
     
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  6. mike gibson

    mike gibson LADA · Active Member

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    For what it’s worth I too was recently diagnosed, 4 weeks ago with a HbA1c of 95 and BG of 17.9 mmol/l and with no guidance or support from my local surgery I set about doing some research and stumbled upon this forum... the advice I’ve received regarding meters and diet has really helped these past few weeks to the point where my latest BG reading was 7.5 and I’m feeling better everyday with more energy...although as a skinny 9st 13 the low carb diet isn’t ideal as the last thing I need is too lose weight but I’m working hard to increase my fat intake, I do believe the reduction in carbs has been a massive factor in my numbers coming down...I’m also on Metformin, taking one a day which is to increase to 2 a day from next week...after a few days of stomach upsets it seems I’m getting used to the medication now....along with exercise and better diet I aim to keep things under control and hopefully see my HbA1c number come down when I next visit the diabetic nurse..I got the code free meter and thoroughly recommended getting a meter to help with your day to day management of diabetes...good luck and go and enjoy that holiday..
     
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  7. Grateful

    Grateful Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I eat plenty of protein. Meat, fish, copious quantities of nuts ... lots of stuff. I've been on this low-carb lifestyle for nine months now and (apart from occasional constipation, which is a known side-effect of low-carb and can be dealt with by dietary adjustments) I feel great. I have been checked by my doctor at least every three months. The blood tests show my nutrient levels are good.

    So I don't worry about it. It appears to be a sustainable lifestyle, for ever. Of course I won't know for sure until I've been doing this for several years.
     
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  8. Red_river_

    Red_river_ Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Thank you! You are amazing you brought BG down more than half in just 4 weeks! Keep on the good work! Like you I didn't get any information from the nurse, but people like you in this forum are ever so helpful. I now ( kind of) believe I can manage BG by dieting too. Although I know I will loose weight ( sth I don't wish) as I am not keen on anything fatty, because they are often processed and no good for high cholesterol that I have. Can you please tell me how you increase your fat intake if you don't mind? Thank you.
     
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  9. woodywhippet61

    woodywhippet61 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Some people on here drink coffee with double cream in it. I eat nut's as snacks. Macadamia and Pecans.
     
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  10. Guzzler

    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    The term 'we prefer'? No, some people prefer it and some couldnt
    I am afraid you are in error. The body utilises the different macros in different ways using different pathways. Only starvation would cause the human body to use protein as a fuel but when and only when fats and carbs are restricted not to mention that ketones are also used as a fuel source.
     
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  11. Grateful

    Grateful Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    @Guzzler: I apologize unreservedly for presuming to speak for anyone else, let alone the entire forum.

    (Personally, I don't mind the term "diabetic" but some time back I saw someone here being mildly told off for using it, so I jumped to the wrong conclusion.)
     
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    Bluetit1802 Type 2 (in remission!) · Guru

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    There are so many good fats it is impossible to list them all. Here are some for a starter
    avocado
    nuts
    salmon/tuna/sardines/mackerel
    real mayonnaise
    Other fish
    lamb/pork/bacon
    olive oil
    eggs
    cheese
    all dairy foods

    Which bits of your cholesterol are high, and what are your levels? (HDL/LDL/Triglycerides)

    Our livers manufacture most of our cholesterol, simply because we need it to survive. Less than 15% comes from food. There are many hundreds of threads on the forum about this, with good scientific links and videos. You will find them from the search box.
     
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  13. Guzzler

    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    Personally, as long as members engage in polite respectful conversation then I do not see why anyone should be offended by the term. I shan't be changing the terminology I use because one or two people find it irritating. Just my opinion. And we are all individual and there should be a measure of tolerance for others' choices.
     
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  14. Resurgam

    Resurgam Type 2 (in remission!) · Expert

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    You can eat as many eggs as you fancy - the idea that your cholesterol comes from what you eat was checked and the cholesterol found in - for instance, eggs, is not exactly the same as that found in humans - so the suspicion was that it was not a simple absorption route - then they got someone to eat lots of high cholesterol foods with something added that could be detected - and found that most of it just went straight through
     
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    Prem51 Type 2 · Expert

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    NHS gps often will go by the total cholesterol figure, the NHS guidelines say a figure of 5 or less is advisable for non-diabetics, and 4 or less for T2 diabetics. But there is disagreement over this. Some doctors say that the total cholesterol figures are irrelevant. It is the figures for HDL (good cholesterol), LDL (bad cholesterol) and triglycerides and their ratios to each other which are more important.
    Do you know your HDL, LDL and triglycerides figures? If not you should get them from your GP surgery. Your test results should be accessible online, you have to ask the surgery for access, or you can ask for a printout of your test results.
    If you have the figures you can enter them into the online Cholesterol Ratio Calculator to get the ratios: http:www.hughcalc.org/chol-si.php

    Also from what I understand women and older men benefit from higher cholesterol.
    NHS advice is that statins can raise bs levels, not for everyone, but if I remember correctly for about 10% of users.
    They can also have side effects like muscle pain.

    T2s should avoid sweet stuff. but you can replace sugar with sweeteners. Salt shouldn't be a problem in moderation, our body needs some salt, it is necessary to replace salt lost through sweating in hot weather or through exercise. But if you have high blood pressure salt should be restricted. Natural fats are good, I eat a lot of cheese, and avocados are great.
     
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    Prem51 Type 2 · Expert

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    @Red_river_ I have a severe needle phobia. I have had only one injection since the childhood immunisations which I believe gave me the phobia. I didn't want to test at first, but after my three month HbA1c retest I realised I wouldn't know how I was doing until my next annual HbA1c test so I got a meter.
    I don't actually test before and after meals as many on here do. I usually only test first thing in the morning (fbg - fasting blood glucose) which gives me a general picture of how I'm doing. I sometimes test before and after certain foods which I'm not sure about. I found porridge spiked me to over 10 and gave it up. But I think I have a good idea about what is likely to raise my bs and avoid it, or eat it in small quantities, which seems to have worked for me so far anyway.

    I use the Accu Chek Mobile with the Accu Chek Fastclix finger lancet. The needles are in a cartridge inside a pen like case so you don't see them. Just hold against finger and press top. You hardly feel it. It did take me a few days to work up the courage to use it the first time, but now it's just routine.
     
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    mike gibson LADA · Active Member

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    At the moment I’m having a lot of full fat Greek yoghurt, nuts to snack on and the odd protein shake.. also considering doing some kind of resistance weight training to help build muscle... prior to diagnosis I lost around 10 pounds... I’ve noticed since the diet change and start of medication that the weight loss has stopped and I’m hovering around the 9st 13 mark... my aim, once I get the diabetes under control, is to try and put back on what I’ve lost...
     
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  18. Mbaker

    Mbaker Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    This is a sample of the food my wonderful wife and daughters deliver (I do the washing up and endless drinks). I can cope with parsnips and carrots. The pictures do not convey the flavours in the food with the spicing. The apple and cinnamon pie has an almond meal crust.

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  19. woodywhippet61

    woodywhippet61 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Yum.
     
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    mike gibson LADA · Active Member

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    The best tip I could give is stop the white bread, rice and pasta right away and maybe swap potatoes for the sweet ones...cauliflower rice is a good alternative and my favourite discovery is a spiraliza in which I use to turn courgettes into courgetti and thus no more need for normal spaghetti pasta
     
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