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Newly diagnosed T2

BurnleyMark

Newbie
Messages
2
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi all, I have just been diagnosed with type 2 diabetes with high blood pressure and high cholesterol, this is a bit of a shock as I'm only 36. I checked my blood sugar the other night and it was 27.2 which I know is high, I've been eating healthy the past couple of days and it's come down to 17.4 in two days so I was just wondering if I continued to eat healthy and cut out bad carbs like bread and chips etc will this continue to drop.

Thank for your advise everyone
 
Welcome to the forum, @BurnleyMark.

I am so sorry to hear about your diagnosis. This is definitely a bummer and this just before Xmas.

You've done a good job lowering your blood sugars, but 17.4 is still too high.

Are you on any medication yet? Have they done an HbA1c test for you?

Personally, I have embarked on a very low carb diet and it has helped to bring my blood sugars down to non-diabetic levels and I am now on no medication. I started eating low-carb two and a half years ago and found it easy to maintain.

Low carb means cutting out most things with more than 5% carbs (including potatoes, pasta, bread, rice, cereals, most regular deserts, high-sugar fruits). However, the good news is that for many things you can find low-carb substitutes -- it just takes a while.

A note of caution -- if you are on insulin or insulin-enhancing drugs, a low-carb diet can lower your blood sugar levels too much leading to hypoglycaemic episodes. So, in this case, you should definitely talk to your health care professionals.

I am also tagging @daisy1, who will provide some fabulous information for newbies.

Have a look around the site, there is lots of helpful information. If you have any questions, just ask away. There loads of helpful and knowledgeable members on this site, who can help.
 
Thank you so much for your informed response, it actually feels good to have a diagnosis as I've been shattered for ages and felt something was wrong so now I know what it is I can do something about it
 
Hi all, I have just been diagnosed with type 2 diabetes with high blood pressure and high cholesterol, this is a bit of a shock as I'm only 36. I checked my blood sugar the other night and it was 27.2 which I know is high, I've been eating healthy the past couple of days and it's come down to 17.4 in two days so I was just wondering if I continued to eat healthy and cut out bad carbs like bread and chips etc will this continue to drop.

Thank for your advise everyone

:) Just to note that you may find that ALL carbs are bad carbs.:)

Eat healthy is an interesting concept because it depends what you have been told is healthy.

Post a sample menu and we can see if it looks healthy for a diabetic (which is sometimes not the same as healthy for a non-diabetic).

Welcome. Come on in the water's fine.
 
Hi @BurnleyMark and welcome to the forum. It is a shock when you are told you are diabetic and does take a bit of time to get your head round it all. If you continue to lower your carb intake you should lower your bs readings further. Many on here have done this by adopting a Low Carbohydrate High Fat (LCHF) approach to eating.
Have a read round the threads to see how this works and ask any questions you want. The people on here are friendly and supportive.
 
Hi BurnleyMark, welcome to this wonderful forum. You already take the first step by wanting to control your condition and not let it control you. Just go through some the old thread and you will pick up a few trick on how to manage it and hopefully get remission.
 
Hi Mark, and welcome.

Diagnosis is always a shock, I was 27 when I found out. If you can learn anything from my experience it is not to ignore the diabetes but ignore the NHS diet advice. I followed it and got sicker and sicker. Low carb is the way to go if you ask me, have a good look around here and try it for yourself. How low you go is up to you, and every body reacts differently.

You've found yourself in the right place, people are supportive and friendly so ask all the questions you have,
 
Hi and welcome. Yes, the low carb diet should help a lot. I'm sure the GP will also start meds if needed as well. Can I ask whether you are a bit overweight or slim? As you are still quite young, if you are slim then there is always the possibility of being Late onset T1 and not T2 as mis-diagnosis does happen. If so, this would affect the choice of meds but the low carb diet is always relevant.
 
Hi all, I have just been diagnosed with type 2 diabetes with high blood pressure and high cholesterol, this is a bit of a shock as I'm only 36. I checked my blood sugar the other night and it was 27.2 which I know is high, I've been eating healthy the past couple of days and it's come down to 17.4 in two days so I was just wondering if I continued to eat healthy and cut out bad carbs like bread and chips etc will this continue to drop.

Thank for your advise everyone

Sign up with the low carb program asap!

https://www.lowcarbprogram.com/
 
Sign up with the low carb program asap!

https://www.lowcarbprogram.com/


I am sure the low carb program is great, but you dont need to pay for the info that a t2d needs. Have a good look around the forum, read dietdoctor, (the free bits) and read the free recipes etc that pop up if you google low carb diets.

The info that you need is available for free in lots of places.
 
@BurnleyMark

Hello Mark and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it both interesting and useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 250,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
Hello and welcome to the forum. As has been said, diagnosis hits most of us out of the blue and can leave us bewhildered and a little scared but knowledge about our condition is the greatest tool we can use to better our health and out future. By learning what has 'gone wrong' we can use what we learn to adjust our diet and to a lesser extent our excercise to garner good results. Have a wander around the forum and ask as many questions as you like, there are shed loads of members who know this condition well. Good luck.
 
For me getting diagnosed was good news as it has meant going back to the low carb diet I thrived on for decades whenever I was not being pushed into eating carbs - it always made me feel wrong.
After six months eating low carb I got back to normal readings - as far as I know that is the end of it, eat low carb, enjoy life. I am now 13 months from diagnosis, thinner and fitter without any effort.
 
:) Just to note that you may find that ALL carbs are bad carbs.:)

This is a bit of a misnomer. Some complex carbohydrates are indicated for good intestinal health and are indeed recommended by dieticians as part of a well balanced diet for people with diabetes. It's "cheap" simple carbohydrates that we should be aiming to keep to an absolute minimum.
Let's not go from the extremes of "all saturated fats are evil" to "all carbs are evil". It's not helpful. All food groups have a useful function in the body.
 
For both types, some complex carbohydrates (which will reach the full length of the lower intestines) are required on a reasonably regular basis to ensure that the correct balance of bacterial flora can survive. This should not make one's blood glucose levels hard to control as part of a low carb diet.
https://fixyourgut.com/low-carb-diets-and-the-gut/
 
Some complex carbohydrates are indicated for good intestinal health and are indeed recommended by dieticians as part of a well balanced diet for people with diabetes.
Disagree 100%... with Type 2 I would try to avoid as many carbs as you can. I would also try to avoid as many dieticians as you can as well! The problem with things like a "well balanced diet" is no-one is sure what that means. You could call the eatwell guide a "well balanced diet" but it would send my blood sugar through the roof.
 
For both types, some complex carbohydrates (which will reach the full length of the lower intestines) are required on a reasonably regular basis to ensure that the correct balance of bacterial flora can survive. This should not make one's blood glucose levels hard to control as part of a low carb diet.
https://fixyourgut.com/low-carb-diets-and-the-gut/

I am wondering what type.of complex carbs you recommend?
 
Disagree 100%... with Type 2 I would try to avoid as many carbs as you can. I would also try to avoid as many dieticians as you can as well! The problem with things like a "well balanced diet" is no-one is sure what that means. You could call the eatwell guide a "well balanced diet" but it would send my blood sugar through the roof.
It means balanced for your own individual dietary needs.
I think saying "avoid dieticians" is also dangerous advice to give anyone diagnosed with a chronic metabolic disease like diabetes. It's like saying "avoid diabetic nurses" or "avoid GPs". None of them necessarily have all the answers nor are on the cutting edge of medical research, but they are professionals who continuously study their field and dispense generally accepted wisdom within the context of their individual patient analysis. Yes, this changes over time as research evolves. Yes, it hasn't been correct sometimes. No, they are not in the thrall of the food industry.
The alternative to listening to professional dieticians is either proceeding with no information or having some magic crystal ball to know whose "amazing research" to put ones trust in. Dispensing any advice such as practically cutting out an entire food group should ring alarm bells to anyone.
Nobody is poo-pooing LCHF diets. Cutting out all carbs though is potentially dangerous to ones health.
 
This is a bit of a misnomer. Some complex carbohydrates are indicated for good intestinal health and are indeed recommended by dieticians as part of a well balanced diet for people with diabetes. It's "cheap" simple carbohydrates that we should be aiming to keep to an absolute minimum.
Let's not go from the extremes of "all saturated fats are evil" to "all carbs are evil". It's not helpful. All food groups have a useful function in the body.

@NoCrbs4Me
Just to bring in an example of someone who doesn't find carbohydrates essential.
There are races who traditionally live a healthy lifestyle with little or no carbohydrates, the Inuit being a prime example.

I think the definition of a "well balanced diet" is the subject of endless speculation.
Fibre is generally good, although not counted as carbohydrate on the UK food labels.
Whatever, eat what works for you. :-)
 
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