Type 2 Newly Diagnosed

Sugarmouse 21

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Hi, I am a newly diagnosed type 2 & like many on here I am completely overwhelmed by it all & in a state of shock! (Like others I went to the Drs with something completely unrelated!)
I have started a lower carb diet & been given Metformin which I currently take once a day ( I was only formally diagnosed last Thursday) I have been taking the tablet every day since Friday & have been getting some stomach cramps etc as per the side effects the Dr & the leaflet tell you to expect however not too severe. I know it’s still very early days but but since yesterday & again today I feel completely exhausted, even though I am sleeping ok at night & I have a headache & my head feels fuzzy, sorry if I’m asking a silly question but is this normal? I am guessing it’s my body getting used to the meds but I’m a bit worried??
 

Resurgam

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Welcome to the forum and the club no one wants to join - but don't worry too much.
My first year as a diabetic has been a bit up and down, as I was so ill on the medication - which was Metformin and a statin, but once I went diet control only I have been so much better.
Eating low carb has meant easy weightloss, more energy and better health in general, so I just count myself as really lucky and intend to go on the same way.
One of the effects of Metformin is to reduce the release of glucose from the liver, so your normal energy supply is restricted. How that helps I cannot fathom, but you can't argue against it being the first medication for just about every diabetic.
I will tag @daisy1 and she will send a useful information sheet to give you some good pointers, but anything more you need to know - just ask.
 

Sugarmouse 21

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Thankyou so much, that’s really helpful & if that’s the case with metformin that explains why I feel so tired, thanks again for your help
 

Bluetit1802

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Hi and welcome aboard,

Try to persevere with the Metformin for a week or two. It should improve. If it doesn't, or it gets a lot worse, ask your doctor to change it to the slow release version, which is kinder on the tummy.

Great news you have started a low carb diet. Have you also bought yourself a blood glucose meter? If not, I advise you to do so as this will help enormously alongside a food diary with sorting out a suitable and sustainable eating plan.

Have a good read round and ask as many questions as you like.
 

Sugarmouse 21

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Thankyou for responding, it’s made me feel better knowing that what’s happening is kind of normal(!) I don’t have a BG meter yet but I have ordered one online today so hopefully that will help me

So glad I found this forum it’s so helpful & great to be able to ask others who know what your going through & exactly how your feeling!
 

Bluetit1802

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Thankyou for responding, it’s made me feel better knowing that what’s happening is kind of normal(!) I don’t have a BG meter yet but I have ordered one online today so hopefully that will help me

So glad I found this forum it’s so helpful & great to be able to ask others who know what your going through & exactly how your feeling!

From the way you are tackling this and being pro-active from the start, I doubt you will have much difficulty seeing lower numbers and getting good control.
 

Sugarmouse 21

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Thankyou, it’s lovely to hear you think I am in the right track, I’ve been really rocked by my diagnosis & been very down & upset since it was first muted by the dr, but now I know is definite I have decided it’s not going to beat me & plan to do all I can to get it under control.

Just need to get my energy levels back!
 
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Bluetit1802

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Just need to get my energy levels back!

Have you cut your carbs drastically without increasing your fats? I ask because losing the energy from carbs without replacing it from fats can cause a lack of energy. You have to replace the lost energy from somewhere.
 

Sugarmouse 21

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I must admit now when I think about it although I have cut down on carbs the fat in my new diet possibly isn’t that high so I perhaps need to add sone other things to my diet, is there anything you recommend that fits in with the low carb aspect?
 

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I must admit now when I think about it although I have cut down on carbs the fat in my new diet possibly isn’t that high so I perhaps need to add sone other things to my diet, is there anything you recommend that fits in with the low carb aspect?
Olives, cheese, avocado, and nuts to start
 

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I must admit now when I think about it although I have cut down on carbs the fat in my new diet possibly isn’t that high so I perhaps need to add sone other things to my diet, is there anything you recommend that fits in with the low carb aspect?

If you have any low fat products in your cupboard you could start by replacing them with full fat.
Butter, cream, full fat plain yogurts in addition to those suggested by @Hotpepper20000 .

There is no need to go overboard if it doesn't appeal to you, but you do need to increase the amount to avoid lack of energy. The amount you increase is dependent on how low carb you are.
 

Sugarmouse 21

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Thankyou so much for your help & advice it’s much appreciated, there’s so much to learn at the moment!
 

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@Sugarmouse 21

Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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