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Not exercising is worse for your health than diabetes

borofergie

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There has been a lot of talk about so called miracle cures for diabetes this week.

This video isn't (exclusively) about diabetes (and obviously I haven't reviewed all the underlying literature), but it perfectly illustrates that the once thing that everyone can do to improve their health and improve their outcomes, is to do a little exercise.

If nothing else, it's beautifully presented.

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Yep, exercise is important for our stone-age frames well-being. It has made a real difference to me since starting regular (3 or 4 times a week) gym sessions (cardio and sprints) some months ago.
 
borofergie said:
but it perfectly illustrates that the once thing that everyone can do to improve their health and improve their outcomes, is to do a little exercise.

I wont argue that exercise is not a very good way to improve your health not I do take exception to the fact made in the video that exercise helps with arthritis, as having had over a year of physiotherapy when after every session I was in agony for three days I can categorically say that in my case at least that statement just is not true.

Any exercise other than gentle walking will leave me in severe pain both in the lower back and referred pain down my right leg.

The physio's, the doctor at the pain clinic, my own GP and the orthopaedic surgeon I saw all had no answers for me, so I tend to get a bit grouchy when I hear someone say everyone can do exercise. I only wish that were true.
 
I guess it depends on the DEGREE of exercise Sid. You said "anything other than gentle walking", but that IS exercise. It doesn't have to be hard, just what you can do. But anything is better than nothing I guess. My mum has SEVERE arthritis; (Not saying you haven't); she's had 6 full hip replacements and 2 further major hip ops for re-construction, (nowadays they say 2 is max?) but still walks (just!) on crutches at nearly 93. Her surgeons put it down to her determination to remain active. In one convalescent home she was in, people sat around raising their arms up and down; not much, but exercise of a sort. So while I understand your point, I think the message is still right.
 
Its not the fact that I dont think exercise is good for you, just the tittle of the thread I think is rubbish, sorry but a lack of exercise is NOT worse than diabetes for your health.

Given a straight choice I would much rather be lazy than diabetic, but each to their own I suppose :shock:
 
[Given a straight choice I would much rather be lazy than diabetic, but each to their own I suppose :shock:[/quote]
Great choice of words Sid,

I feel the same but since losing 2 stone in weight all my arthritic aches and pains seem to have gone for now at least.

I dont do any excercise at all, just manual work every day, cutting and spitting logs all morning for example and will be walking the dogs shortly too. Ide rather just put my feet up and do ****** all but then ide have no heat in the house. :D

Andy
 
On the subject of exercise. Any is better than none. A little and often is better than none at all and just about anyone can do that, baring some poor souls obviously.

Talking to the the bulk of us T2's ... anything you can work out for yourself is a bonus. I go to a gym regularly but, big deal! I am not out to impress anyone and I do my own thing at the gym, which I understand will help my condition. Even if its just giving her in doors some attention, do something regularly with some short sprints included :lol: This will help burn glucose and that's the name of the game :wink:
 
Sid Bonkers said:
Its not the fact that I dont think exercise is good for you, just the tittle of the thread I think is rubbish, sorry but a lack of exercise is NOT worse than diabetes for your health.

I'm sorry you don't like the thread title Sid (it was meant to be a little provocative - I do work in Marketing after all). I think it's a fair statement though, based upon what the Doctor states about low-fitness being a better predictor of death than even obesity or diabetes. Losing weight is difficult. Curing diabetes is impossible. (Almost) everyone can improve their health (and therefore their lifespan) by exercising a little.

I like this idea, I heard it somewhere else as "it's much better to be fat and fit, than slim and sedentary".

Sid Bonkers said:
Given a straight choice I would much rather be lazy than diabetic, but each to their own I suppose :shock:

Unfortunately none of us can choose not to be diabetic, which is why we have to do whatever else we can reduce its impact.
 
i liked the video but i may be biased as walking is one of my hobbies and i live in a lovely part of the country the presentation was good. thank you :
 
The importance of exercise can never be said enough in promoting all-round health. By far the best form of exercise IMHO is walking, owning a dog makes sure that you never have a day off and I'll walk for at least an hour every day no matter what the weather is outside.

As wellwell says ''any is better than none'' but appreciate that some people are not position to exercise due to the disabilities they may have.
 
Without my regular walk my levels rise in spite of medicaio ad carb and portion cotrol. My husbad used to run marathons etc but had o sop whe he ruptured his achilles tendo ad spent some moths in plaster.
He also used to go to the gym wice every week. For the past two years he has just walked daily for about an hour . he is fiter and slimmer tha he has bee for years.

I acually worry about what will happe if I find myself unable to walk daily at some point i the future.
 
Sid Bonkers said:
I wont argue that exercise is not a very good way to improve your health not I do take exception to the fact made in the video that exercise helps with arthritis, as having had over a year of physiotherapy when after every session I was in agony for three days I can categorically say that in my case at least that statement just is not true.

Excellent programme on BBC1 last night called "How to Beat Pain" where (as well as abusing themselves) they took a woman with chronic pack pain and a man with sever arthiritis and showed how both were able to significantly improve their condition with supervised exercise:
https://www.facebook.com/HowToBeatPain
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... Beat_Pain/

Obviously the people involved had a lot of support. It would probably be much more difficult if you had to do it all by yourself. It did demostrate that exercise can help arthiritus (at least in this n=1 case).

It's an excellent, light-hearted show, I hope they commission a whole series.
 
With exercising I have found cardio is good, but resistant training will give you a better long term return.

As toned muscles / bigger muscles will burn the sweet stuff long after the effects of cardio training have worn off.

I am NOT saying cardio does not have its place, but I have found that resistant training more useful in my case, with low carbing ect.

Cheers
Simply_h
 
simply_h said:
With exercising I have found cardio is good, but resistant training will give you a better long term return.

As toned muscles / bigger muscles will burn the sweet stuff long after the effects of cardio training have worn off.

I am NOT saying cardio does not have its place, but I have found that resistant training more useful in my case, with low carbing ect.

Don't make me show you my nasty bulging (running induced) calves dude.
 
I was an exercise phobe, mainly due to AJA, but when I was diagnosed, knew I had to do something. I bought a treadmill, I chose an automatic one, as felt I wouldn't be able to manage a manual, and decided to walk. Initially I was doing just 2-3 minutes, at an ultra low speed, gradually as the days went along managing a longer time, and higher speed. Now I can actually go out and walk the dogs for an hour + at a time, at a really brisk pace, or as I did Sunday, gently walk for around 2 hours. I would never in a million years have believed I could have done that. The pain is still there, and I often have problems with my left knee, but I have found that I really enjoy my exercise, and it's now a natural and normal part of my day. Keeps me fit and weight loss going (except this week) and helps keep my BG really tight. I now love my little walks around and about, and I am ever really quite friends with my treadmill. :lol:
 
I have issues with excercise. I need to do some, it's not that I am lazy it just does no appeal to me, even walking, I walk places with my little boy, I volunteer at his school so that's a full packed morning. I just have no interest. I know I need to do some as it will help, just dont know what. We are going on holiday in 2 weeks at the beach so will be in the water and when we get back we have signed up to swimming lessons for our little boy, so hopefully swimming will be on the agenda a few times a week.

Scot
 
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