We each have to find our own way dms1. What works best for me may not work best for you, and the reverse. I understand. I have a problem with the rising movement that is trying to impose their way of eating on everyone, which is exactly what is being rolled out right now. This is not about a lack of openness to eating a vegan or vegetarian diet. It wouldn't work for me. I respect your choice to eat a vegetarian diet. That said, please do not impose your diet on me and the rest of the world. If I ate your diet, my diabetes would significantly worsen, I would develop complications, and die years earlier. I'm not alone. There are many others like me, the metabolically damaged. My blood sugar problems began in my 20's due to following the government's nutritional guidelines. I have the lab work to show that I am healthier today than I've been in my entire adult life, and I'm 57 years old. I restored my health four years ago within months of starting the diet that I continue on today. I am healthy now. I wish the same for you. And I genuinely wish you well.