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Type 2 Ozempic
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bulkbiker
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Have you thought about some dramatic changes to what you eat and avoiding all drugs instead?
Oldvatr
Expert
Ozempic will not replace insulin if you need to use it. Ozempic increases insulin output but only if your pancreas is capable of doing so, Otherwise Ozempic is merely an appetite suppressant and acts like a very low calorie diet with a built in taskmaster that makes you nauseous if you try to cheat.
Hello and welcome to the forums. Not sure about the kidney aspect (have you talked to a dietician) but a lot of T2s on these forums reduce their bgs and reduce or come off medication by reducing the carbs in their diet. Here's one of my favourite links about T2 and low carb.
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/blog/jokalsbeek.401801/
Have you been given any advice as to diet that's suitable for people with poor kidney function?
Bexd12
Member
I have not found this, if anything it has made me crave sugar and I have had to stop taking it.
woollygal
Well-Known Member
I’m sorry but not everyone can avoid drugs just by changing diet.
For some people diet alone just doesn’t work enough. Using those words really comes across as using drugs is bad. If people need them they should be able to use them without the need for judgements.
yes for some drastically changing diets works a treat. That’s not the case for everyone.
I haven’t been on this forum for pretty much a year and the reason is the judgments if you find managing diabetes difficult.
Please can we stop with this using meds is bad. It’s not helping people who need to use them.
PeggySuegotmarried
Newbie
I am on ozempic and it has worked wonderful for me. I have lost about 12 pounds and I have been able to come off of glimepiride as well. It has dropped my A1C from
7.9 to 6.3. I’m very excited about this. Peggy
7.9 to 6.3. I’m very excited about this. Peggy
Sarah69
Well-Known Member
I’ve been on Ozempic since about March I think. Started at the low dose and worked up to 1mg weekly. At my last review in December my hba1c was 119 I had a 6 month follow up today and I think he said it’s 46, pre diabetic range. I am so shocked it’s come down that much. I was also prescribed another tablet to go with it aswell. I’ve lost a stone in weight too. The only downside though is that I am randomly sick.
Paulasomers
Member
Hi there, I started Ozempic 6 weeks ago, on the low dose and have moved to 0.5mg now. I've had terrible diarrhoea and sickness for 5 weeks but only randomly this last week so I'm hoping it settled down now. Ive stopped Glicaside as that was giving me hypos and my sugar has come down from 9.6 to 6 in the morning. Haven't felt less hungry yet but I'm sure that will come.
How often have you had the random nause for?
How often have you had the random nause for?
Paulasomers
Member
Hi Peggy
I found similar success with Ozempic but have been ill for 1st 4 weeks.. I'm hoping this will settled down as this last week I just had random nausea and random diarrhoea
Good luck long may our success continue
onnecar
Well-Known Member
Here here. I have had exactly the same experience. That is why I am now very careful of which comments I reply to and what I post. Unfortunately people only look at part of the story. I totally agree. Always do your best with diet and exercise, but in some cases this can lose it's effect over the years and insulin production itself can also fall. Everyone's body is different. Low carbs and exercise is a given for most. Some people on here are being made to feel like a failure if they have to resort to meds and or insulin. Sometimes that it is the only viable option. Just so glad to have found another person on here that can see the whole picture and not just some low carb anti-med warrior view.
glittergirl_
Member
I agree that people on this site are far to judgemental..everyone’s an expert.!
Peoples bodies react differently to food, meds,drinks etc. we are not all cut from the same cloth.
I have been type 2 for over 20yrs. First few years I controlled with diet alone, then unfortunately had to go on metformin, then gliclazide and empagliflozin.
I have now been advised to take Ozempic but can’t be given the prescription because there is a world wide shortage of the drug.
Apparently half of Americans are using it simply for weight loss…nothing to do with diabetes.!
Elon Musk, actors /actresses ,models etc are the main culprits..anyone who can afford it .
Diabetics who need it are up the creek without a paddle.
Peoples bodies react differently to food, meds,drinks etc. we are not all cut from the same cloth.
I have been type 2 for over 20yrs. First few years I controlled with diet alone, then unfortunately had to go on metformin, then gliclazide and empagliflozin.
I have now been advised to take Ozempic but can’t be given the prescription because there is a world wide shortage of the drug.
Apparently half of Americans are using it simply for weight loss…nothing to do with diabetes.!
Elon Musk, actors /actresses ,models etc are the main culprits..anyone who can afford it .
Diabetics who need it are up the creek without a paddle.
onnecar
Well-Known Member
I have been diabetic type 2 for a long time. I'm 70 now and have failing insulin production. Did and still doing the low carb thing. Still exercise, actually reversed it some years ago. Also started on diet and exercise for a number of years with good levels. Then went to metformin. Tried various other meds later, with plenty of side-effects and little or no improvement. Now on insulin. It's a cleaner method of delivery, but there are issues with dosage. It is a bit of a minefield out there. How terrible that people are abusing these drugs. Some of them suppress appetite so why should we be surprised I guess.
Sarah69
Well-Known Member
For me it’s still ongoing but my consultant said it could be something else not related to Ozempic.
bulkbiker
BANNED
But it must be worth a try before starting on a lifetime of medication?
Oldvatr
Expert
I am concerned about the way these medications are being given out to all and sundry (diabetics, obese, and soon dementia (so called Type 3 ) and cardio patients as if they are a miracle cure.
They are GLP-1 argonists which means they imitate the GLP-1 hormone. This hormone forces the pancreas beta cells to synthesize and release insulin while GLP-1 is present. Normally low blood sugar closes the cycle by creating Glucagon which turns off the GLP-1 and the cycle ends. But this medication remains in control like a spanner in the works. It lasts 5 days and so your pancreas will be fully engaged for that period with no relief. It is no longer depending on what you eat or even if you eat at all. It is constantly ON.
So far it is doing you a favour, Your bgl levels drop, and when low enough the glucagon signal combined with the high insulin levels flips your body into ketosis and you burn fat instead of glucose. Hence weight loss and low blood sugar = success! It Works!
There is a general feeling, but unproven by science, that T2D is a condition of high sugar levels combined with high insulin levels ( the Insulin resistance state) and although we do not know why IR occurs, or what causes it , the suspicion is that walking around with constant high insulin levels may be linked to it, and is not a hea;lthy condition. So these meds are causing this very condition as part of their modus operandi. Thus you may be building up problems for the longer term by taking this med, indeed non diabetics may become diabetic as a result of it. I am concerned that there is no real follow up or long term review for these meds especially where non diabetic use is concerned since they do not have the blood work that we diabetics tend to get where problems can be picked up.
They are also causing lipid burning which in turn, generates ketones. This can lead to a condition known as ketoacidosis which can be dangerous. We have had reports of this in the forum where members have reported suiffering DKA while taking this drug.
The other problem is that this med will not work in cases of high insulin resistance, nor in cases of insulin insufficiency, yet it is given out without any checks on insu;in status. If its not working, then titrate the dose up to max . Never mind that this family of medications is associated with thyroid tumours. Its a sweetie for the masses after all so it must be safe.
They are GLP-1 argonists which means they imitate the GLP-1 hormone. This hormone forces the pancreas beta cells to synthesize and release insulin while GLP-1 is present. Normally low blood sugar closes the cycle by creating Glucagon which turns off the GLP-1 and the cycle ends. But this medication remains in control like a spanner in the works. It lasts 5 days and so your pancreas will be fully engaged for that period with no relief. It is no longer depending on what you eat or even if you eat at all. It is constantly ON.
So far it is doing you a favour, Your bgl levels drop, and when low enough the glucagon signal combined with the high insulin levels flips your body into ketosis and you burn fat instead of glucose. Hence weight loss and low blood sugar = success! It Works!
There is a general feeling, but unproven by science, that T2D is a condition of high sugar levels combined with high insulin levels ( the Insulin resistance state) and although we do not know why IR occurs, or what causes it , the suspicion is that walking around with constant high insulin levels may be linked to it, and is not a hea;lthy condition. So these meds are causing this very condition as part of their modus operandi. Thus you may be building up problems for the longer term by taking this med, indeed non diabetics may become diabetic as a result of it. I am concerned that there is no real follow up or long term review for these meds especially where non diabetic use is concerned since they do not have the blood work that we diabetics tend to get where problems can be picked up.
They are also causing lipid burning which in turn, generates ketones. This can lead to a condition known as ketoacidosis which can be dangerous. We have had reports of this in the forum where members have reported suiffering DKA while taking this drug.
The other problem is that this med will not work in cases of high insulin resistance, nor in cases of insulin insufficiency, yet it is given out without any checks on insu;in status. If its not working, then titrate the dose up to max . Never mind that this family of medications is associated with thyroid tumours. Its a sweetie for the masses after all so it must be safe.
