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Petition to PM office - Diet advice for T2 diabetics

IanD

IanD

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From another thread:

A Petition to the PM's office may be a good starting point.

Draft wording:

Patients with type 2 diabetes are concerned by the dietary advice being given them, & have found from experience that NHS advice to "eat plenty of starchy foods, fruits & vegetables" aggravates their problems. As this is declared to be "a healthy diet as recommended for everyone" we believe this advice contributes to the rise in obesity & incidence of diabetes as starchy foods increase the load on the pancreas & accelerate its failure.

We request the Health Minister to conduct a study of dietary recommendations for diabetics, with a view to making the recommendation we have found by experience: "Patients with diabetes should reduce their consumption of all forms of carbohydrate, and increase their consumption of vegetables & protein foods."

Feel free to revise that, so we can submit an agreed wording.
 
Is it worth adding after ". . . & accelerate its failure." something along the lines of "The presently recommended diet inevitably increases the need for medication, resulting in ever increasing NHS costs for diabetes treatment."

My thinking is that the present wording offers them no incentive to change anything.
 
I've written something similar once before to the NHs and just got the "brush-off"
 
Whilst I would not hesitate to support such a petition,my fear is that even if we got the Health Minister to review the situation , who would be consulted? I think we know who - the mainstream HCP's and their cronies who will simply churn out another batch of misinformation and think they have solved that problem.
 
Could I suggest a rewording that would accept that a) that there is no one-size fits all diet for helping type 2 diabetics manage their condition and that b) health care teams should accept the role of patients as lead, where appropriate, in management decisions?

This reflects the experiences of members of this forum.

Regards, Tubs.
 
Tubs

Great intervention. There is no one size fits all. I was surprised to see that it was a non-low carb diet that contributes to obesity in the original wording. Surely it is eating more than the body requires that produces obesity. I don't think that anyone is advised to eat too much. Too keep weight stable you need to eat enough to provide the energy you need. To decrease it you eat less.

Doug
 
And something along the lines of "measuring once/ twice a month" is as much use a chocolate fire guard. Money spent on consumable items will be far outweighed by reduced costs of long care treatment, etc. (Citation needed ;))

Definitely a good idea.
 
Hello - I've just found this forum after posting the following on another forum elsewhere.

When I was diagnosed as Type 2 nine years ago, the very pointed medical advice that I received from within the NHS was specifically to eat more meals and to ensure that I ate starchy carbohydrate (bread, potatoes, pasta, rice etc) at every meal.

Since those days no advice that I have received from anybody working within the NHS - or for that matter in literature from Diabetes UK - has given me a different message

Increasingly, I started to question that advice - often thinking that I may have misunderstood the message. However, I am certain that I hadn't.

It is only after reading US literature (particularly Dr Bernstein's book regarding the bad effect of carbohydrates) and when I started testing my blood sugars (against my GP's wishes) that I began to understand why I had been having problems maintaining blood sugar control (with HbA1c levels such as 8.2%, 9.4%, 8.5% and suchlike). :( Now that I have some idea where I'm heading, my last three HbA1c readings were 6.8%, 5.7% and 5.5% - a massive improvement on where I was! :)

Moreover, where is the advice from the medical authorities regarding the eating of low-glycaemic index food? If that message is there at all it is diluted and compromised and largely lost.

My experience over nine years as a Type 2 diabetic has led me to seriously question the advice that we receive from UK sources such as the NHS and Diabetes UK. In my opinion, it is about time that the messages they put out are reviewed and re-issued. Surely, the people at the top of these organisations are fully aware of the factors that lead to poor blood sugar control - they must have read the same literature that I have read - and possibly more. Why do they apparently garble the message that is needed for people to understand how to take control of their diabetic situations?

I am very confused by their apparently well-meant messages - and from messages on this forum I am aware that others seem to be similarly confused!

Certainly, I shall be supporting any such petition as the one proposed to 10 Downing Street!
 
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