Poll regarding X-PERT High Fat/Low Carb diet

Sid Bonkers · Mar 20, 2015

daddys1 said:
Hi, Have you looked at the title of the Poll?

We call on Diabetes UK to recognise the LCHF diet alongside the HCLF diet.

We all know that many people do 'moderation' in the Low Carb High Fat, but isn't Diabetes UK sometimes preaching 'moderation' in the High Carb Low Fat diet? I'm not sure what you would want to achieve by including questions for moderation.

If we can get them to recognize, as the poll question suggests, then there would clearly be moderation between the two by many people but they would have the option of choosing, where they don't at the moment, because they are only offered HCLF
Neil

Do DUK tell people to eat high carbs? Or a hclf diet?

Their diet advice as of 2011 was to eat a balanced diet and substituting high GI carbs for lower GI foods and watching the amount of sat fats, no mention of a high carb diet at all and Dr Trudi Deakins name is on the top of it dated 2011.

http://www.diabetes.org.uk/Documents/Reports/nutritional-guidelines-2013-amendment-0413.pdf

So why all this talk of hclf Im not aware of anyone suggesting that as a good idea so why put it in a poll?

Sid Bonkers · Mar 20, 2015

CollieBoy said:
So that's you as "LowER carb, lower fat" then Sid!
Glad you got yourself "sorted out"

No I said I eat lower fat than I used to as I used to eat way too much food in general but you knew that didnt you?

sanguine · Mar 20, 2015

Sid Bonkers said:
Do DUK tell people to eat high carbs? Or a hclf diet?

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So why all this talk of hclf Im not aware of anyone suggesting that as a good idea so why put it in a poll?

See post 41 for definitions and context of this thread.

daddys1 · Mar 20, 2015

sanguine said:
See post 41 for definitions and context of this thread.

Thank you for that @sanguine hadn't realized it was what I posted
Neil

AndBreathe · Mar 20, 2015

Is it just me, or are others befuddled how the statistical percentages can add up to more than 100%?

daddys1 · Mar 20, 2015

Sid Bonkers said:
Do DUK tell people to eat high carbs? Or a hclf diet?

Their diet advice as of 2011 was to eat a balanced diet and substituting high GI carbs for lower GI foods and watching the amount of sat fats, no mention of a high carb diet at all and Dr Trudi Deakins name is on the top of it dated 2011.

http://www.diabetes.org.uk/Documents/Reports/nutritional-guidelines-2013-amendment-0413.pdf

So why all this talk of hclf Im not aware of anyone suggesting that as a good idea so why put it in a poll?

Please see post 41, I also, strongly suggest you get Trudi Deakin's book, it maybe a revelation to you.
Neil

sanguine · Mar 20, 2015

AndBreathe said:
Is it just me, or are others befuddled how the statistical percentages can add up to more than 100%?

Because you can vote for more than one option, they're not mutually exclusive, e.g. 1 and 4

Bluetit1802 · Mar 20, 2015

AndBreathe said:
Is it just me, or are others befuddled how the statistical percentages can add up to more than 100%?

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Sanguine just beat me to it.

AndBreathe · Mar 20, 2015

sanguine said:
Because you can vote for more than one option, they're not mutually exclusive, e.g. 1 and 4

Bluetit1802 said:
Sanguine just beat me to it.

OK, clever clogs. I didn't think that one through, did I?

donnellysdogs · Mar 20, 2015

AndBreathe said:
Is it just me, or are others befuddled how the statistical percentages can add up to more than 100%?

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If multiple votes are allowed.. As it states... Then each indidual question is a percentage, not all 4 together.....if you see what I mean.
It means that from the 100% polled xx found no 1 worked, xx number found no2....it is a very good way to get multiple answers percentaged...

Robinredbreast · Mar 20, 2015

donnellysdogs said:
If multiple votes are allowed.. As it states... Then each indidual question is a percentage, not all 4 together.....if you see what I mean.
It means that from the 100% polled xx found no 1 worked, xx number found no2....it is a very good way to get multiple answers percentaged...

Yes, I get a good understanding from that DD, thanks

donnellysdogs · Mar 20, 2015

Robinredbreast said:
Yes, I get a good understanding from that DD, thanks

Sorry, my posting was superseded by others!!!

Robinredbreast · Mar 20, 2015

donnellysdogs said:
Sorry, my posting was superseded by others!!!

All okay DD

donnellysdogs · Mar 21, 2015

Have a look at http://www.diabetesthinktank.org.uk

And http://ow.ly/HXBQ9

However the think tank is supported by Sanofi!!!

Interesting...

Makes me wonder how much research Roger Gadsby actually does towards the benefits of persons eating lower amounts of carbs.???

Pipp · Mar 21, 2015

CollieBoy said:
Having re-done the X-pert course with Dr Deakin V recently I can confirm that LCHF is NOT "rammed down your throat" merely that the High Fat diet is an option to be considered. I believe that this stance is the one that should be followed by NHS/DUK et al : that this WoE is a viable option and should be considered, not that any one WoE should be pushed on anyone , to the exclusion of all others!

WoE? What is that?

catherinecherub · Mar 21, 2015

Way of eating?

Pipp · Mar 21, 2015

catherinecherub said:
Way of eating?

Thank you.
Thought I was missing out on another alternative diet.

(Embarrassed at how dozy I was not to realise what it meant).

Robinredbreast · Mar 21, 2015

Pipp said:
Thank you.
Thought I was missing out on another alternative diet.

(Embarrassed at how dozy I was not to realise what it meant).

Pipp, same here, I had no idea

catherinecherub · Mar 21, 2015

I might be wrong though.

Robinredbreast · Mar 21, 2015

catherinecherub said:
I might be wrong though.

Maybe someone could enlighten us CC

Poll regarding X-PERT High Fat/Low Carb diet

We call on Diabetes UK to recognise the LCHF diet alongside the HCLF diet.

I have had good blood glucose control & improved health with LCHF

I have had good blood glucose control & improved health with the standard HCLF diet

I have had unsatisfactory results with LCHF

I have had unsatisfactory results with the standard HCLF diet

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