Poll regarding X-PERT High Fat/Low Carb diet

We call on Diabetes UK to recognise the LCHF diet alongside the HCLF diet.

  • I have had good blood glucose control & improved health with LCHF

    Votes: 62 87.3%
  • I have had good blood glucose control & improved health with the standard HCLF diet

    Votes: 2 2.8%
  • I have had unsatisfactory results with LCHF

    Votes: 7 9.9%
  • I have had unsatisfactory results with the standard HCLF diet

    Votes: 38 53.5%

  • Total voters
    71

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Hi, Have you looked at the title of the Poll?

We call on Diabetes UK to recognise the LCHF diet alongside the HCLF diet.


We all know that many people do 'moderation' in the Low Carb High Fat, but isn't Diabetes UK sometimes preaching 'moderation' in the High Carb Low Fat diet? I'm not sure what you would want to achieve by including questions for moderation.

If we can get them to
recognize, as the poll question suggests, then there would clearly be moderation between the two by many people but they would have the option of choosing, where they don't at the moment, because they are only offered HCLF
Neil


Do DUK tell people to eat high carbs? Or a hclf diet?

Their diet advice as of 2011 was to eat a balanced diet and substituting high GI carbs for lower GI foods and watching the amount of sat fats, no mention of a high carb diet at all and Dr Trudi Deakins name is on the top of it dated 2011.

http://www.diabetes.org.uk/Documents/Reports/nutritional-guidelines-2013-amendment-0413.pdf

So why all this talk of hclf Im not aware of anyone suggesting that as a good idea so why put it in a poll?
 

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So that's you as "LowER carb, lower fat" then Sid!
Glad you got yourself "sorted out"

No I said I eat lower fat than I used to as I used to eat way too much food in general but you knew that didnt you?
 

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Do DUK tell people to eat high carbs? Or a hclf diet?

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So why all this talk of hclf Im not aware of anyone suggesting that as a good idea so why put it in a poll?

See post 41 for definitions and context of this thread.
 
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Is it just me, or are others befuddled how the statistical percentages can add up to more than 100%?

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Do DUK tell people to eat high carbs? Or a hclf diet?

Their diet advice as of 2011 was to eat a balanced diet and substituting high GI carbs for lower GI foods and watching the amount of sat fats, no mention of a high carb diet at all and Dr Trudi Deakins name is on the top of it dated 2011.

http://www.diabetes.org.uk/Documents/Reports/nutritional-guidelines-2013-amendment-0413.pdf

So why all this talk of hclf Im not aware of anyone suggesting that as a good idea so why put it in a poll?

Please see post 41, I also, strongly suggest you get Trudi Deakin's book, it maybe a revelation to you.
Neil
 
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Is it just me, or are others befuddled how the statistical percentages can add up to more than 100%?

Because you can vote for more than one option, they're not mutually exclusive, e.g. 1 and 4 ;)
 
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Is it just me, or are others befuddled how the statistical percentages can add up to more than 100%?

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If multiple votes are allowed.. As it states... Then each indidual question is a percentage, not all 4 together.....if you see what I mean.
It means that from the 100% polled xx found no 1 worked, xx number found no2....it is a very good way to get multiple answers percentaged...
 
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If multiple votes are allowed.. As it states... Then each indidual question is a percentage, not all 4 together.....if you see what I mean.
It means that from the 100% polled xx found no 1 worked, xx number found no2....it is a very good way to get multiple answers percentaged...

Yes, I get a good understanding from that DD, thanks :)
 

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Having re-done the X-pert course with Dr Deakin V recently I can confirm that LCHF is NOT "rammed down your throat" merely that the High Fat diet is an option to be considered. I believe that this stance is the one that should be followed by NHS/DUK et al : that this WoE is a viable option and should be considered, not that any one WoE should be pushed on anyone , to the exclusion of all others!

WoE? What is that?
 
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Thank you.
Thought I was missing out on another alternative diet.

(Embarrassed at how dozy I was not to realise what it meant).

Pipp, same here, I had no idea :oops: :rolleyes:
 
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