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Jkmzedder

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Hi all, I've recently been feeling totally awful and went to get my blood sugar tested (with a boots kit). Last night it was ok (felt ok), but this morning I began to feel lightheaded (again!) and tested myself two hours after eating and it came back as 11.5. I called the doctor, and he asked me in for a blood test this morning.

I am awaiting the Doctor's results - but I'm reading up a lot on diet anyhow - can someone let me know which is the best diet, should I be type 2 - I'm hearing total opposites online - Vegan....or low carb/high fat?

Any help appreciated.
 

xfieldok

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Welcome to the forum. First I would wait until you have a proper diagnosis. 11.5 is high. I your doctor days you're diabetic make sure you get your HbA1c number.

What did you eat for breakfast?
 

Jkmzedder

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Hi - Thank you. I'm really hoping for some kind of diagnosis now for feeling rubbish, and some days it's worse than others. This morning I had two rounds of toast and butter, but 10 mins after that I grabbed a Mocha from Costa Coffee. the test was done two hours after that?
 

xfieldok

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Toast will raise blood glucose in a diabetic. When I was diagnosed I immediately cut out bread, pasta, rice etc

Do you need to lose weight?
 
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Jkmzedder

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Not really - I'm 12 stone and 5ft 10. Have run marathons, lifted weights - but I have put on a little weight around my middle recently - this is due in part to being under a heart doctor for an "undiagnosed" heart issue two years ago when I nearly passed out. I had just eaten a bowl of porridge with sugar after fasting for 16 hours when this occurred. I'm now beginning to wonder if the mystery "heart" condition (that has not been diagnosed) could be related to the blood sugar levels?
 
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xfieldok

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Some diabetics tolerate porridge better than others, and of course if you are diagnosed, the sugar will have to go.
 

xfieldok

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Read around the site and report back when you have your results.
 

Diakat

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Since you were asking about diet I'll tag @daisy1 for some basic info.
 

xfieldok

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The first thing you need to know is that there is no such thing as a diabetic cook book. I bought a couple and they are no good for me. As T2 I can't handle carbs.

We all handle carbs differently and what works for one may not work for another. We have to find our own way.

This is why we test our blood glucose before and after a meal. A meter is essential to controlling T2.

I don't want to overload you with information before you are diagnosed.

If you want to lose the weight around your middle you may want to look at IF, intermittent fasting.
 
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xfieldok

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You may want to look up Prof Tim Makes. He makes very interesting reading. The Banting Diet is available to download from Amazon.

He is a runner and found he improved his performance going low carb.
 

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@Jkmzedder

Hello Jkmzedder and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I think this will be useful to you. Ask questions when you need to and someone will help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
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Mbaker

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Dietary selection is ultimately a personal choice. There are many persuasive views on all sides. What made me chose LCHF / Keto over Vegan / Vegetarian was the history of meat and fish, the nutrient content and my like of the taste. I give a nod to the Vegans regarding some of the lowest glycaemic vegetables, such as broccoli, cabbage, asparagus and cauliflower; but I have no time for potatoes, rice, pasta and the like - I researched their origin and for example potatoes originally were poisonous to humans and rice has the most amount of naturally occurring arsenic of any food (no thanks).

I agree with the Vegans / WFPB persons about low quality battery raised proteins - disgusting and profit driven, which will always be low quality; but they will struggle to tell me meat / fish / saturated fat in general cause diabetes (as they claim) when anecdotally thousands including me have reversed not just diabetes, but obesity, high blood pressure etc on the very foods they say are killing us. Sorry but if I am lucky enough to reach 80 on animal protein, and the last 10 years be mainly drug / Doctor free, living to 81 on just plants makes no difference to me.