Excellent, Thanks Indy.
It seems fairly conclusive increased carbs have caused obesity. Interesting topic in view of reports on UK radio today that said people are eating more calories than they claim, hence obesity problem.
Yes, they eating carbs just as nutritionists recommend which increases their desire to eat even more carbs.
regards
Derek
Hi AtkinsMo,I am of the opinion that 'not all calories are the same' simply because the digestive system deals with different nutrients in different ways. The calories are not simply burnt in a calorimeter, they have to be digested and absorbed. Different nutrients pass through the body at different rates ( carbs quickly, proteins / fats slowly) and this also impacts on hunger. So I do agree that the reason why LCHF works so well for the vast majority of people is that it suppresses hunger (or it does for most folks, certainly for me). That is why the studies comparing a LCHF diet with, for instance, the 'eat well plate' guidelines or the standard American diet, when the participants are required to eat the same number of calories in each diet misses the point.
I am really enjoying watching Tim Noakes' defence and look forward to the resolution of this ridiculous case!
Subtracting fibre from total carbs is the basis of the glycemic index. Calories burnt in a calorimetre includes fibre which we do not digest. Soluble fibre slows fat & carb absorption & both are prebiotics for a healthy gut biome.Hi AtkinsMo,
After looking at Prof Noakes videos I am of the opinion that all calories are the same by definition.
The fact that we reduce our intake of refined carbs when we take in more fat is obviously due to us being more satisfied on less calories from the three food groups....we will have changed the distribution of the groups. If we could have the same number of calories with another distribution we would also loose weight but have greater BG swings if we had more carbs with T2D.
Of course it could be with more fat in our diet more undigested food gets eliminated without being 'burned'?
regards
Derek
Thanks Indy, interesting insight into how peer review works or rather doesn't work. I suppose there is a lesson for us all to not be part of a closed minded orthodoxy unless we have an infallible source of information!Part 17:
Subtracting fibre from total carbs is the basis of the glycemic index. Calories burnt in a calorimetre includes fibre which we do not digest. Soluble fibre slows fat & carb absorption & both are prebiotics for a healthy gut biome.
Our bodies evolved to crave carbs on a LCHF diet. With more carbs in our diet it is the fat & Omega 3's that get eliminated.
So glad you all like you like Tim, try The Fat Emperor, he's on your home ground, mathamation [engineer] to boot.
Also, let's get 'insulin resistance' sorted. Dr Jason Fung;
http://www.dietdoctor.com/a-new-paradigm-of-insulin-resistance
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