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Protein

No. Without it we would die.

People with kidney disease have to be careful how much they eat but otherwise it's fine. There are guidelines.
In the UK, adults are advised to eat 0.75g of protein for each kilogram they weigh, based on the Reference Nutrient Intake (RNI). However, I eat far more than that, and always have done, and have never come to any harm. Yet. My kidney functions are spot on normal.
 
Some say excessive protein will harm the kidneys, but there is little evidence for this if you are in reasonable health apart from the diabetes itself.
 
Protein can't be bad for you - unless, possibly, you eat it without the fat which it comes with as standard.
Humans are omnivorous, but to develop out large brains we need to have meat or fish, or shellfish etc. - that is protein and fat.
We need to maintain our bodies with meat or other sources of protein, either what is called first class protein, which contains all the amino acids needed to make up Human protein, or it can be made from second class proteins if there are enough different ones to make up a full set - otherwise it is broken down rather than built up.
Protein and fat are essential for life and health.
 
James1968 said:
Is this bad for us?
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If you are on an LCHF diet, then it's advisable not to eat too much protein as it can be converted to glucose by your liver, thereby negating the benefits of the low carb restriction. There are a number of guideline, but I chose the 1g/kg of body weight, and in fact I find that eating more than that does increase my fasting blood sugar.
But the simple answer is fats and proteins are essential for the body, carbs aren't.
 
On an evolutionary level. Protein did us a lot of favours..... ;)

 
From a weight loss pov, I keep the protein down to about 0.8g/kg of lean body weight in order to retain muscle and drop blubber. It should be lower, according to Dr Fung, but that's about my personal tolerance and he's not always perfectly right. ;)
 
Angelofthemarches said:
So if I want to lose weight do I keep it to 0.8 per kilo of my target weight or my current weight??
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It's target weight. So mine is around 60kg and I try to keep to less than 48g of protein a day. It's all moveable and no panic if it sometimes goes over.

Bear in mind, I'm not diabetic and speaking purely from a healthy weight loss aspect. According to Dr Fung, keeping protein down reduces the loose skin you may be left with and since I'm old, I'd like to avoid that! But consideration of bsl is not top of my list.
 
kittypoker said:
It's target weight. So mine is around 60kg and I try to keep to less than 48g of protein a day. It's all moveable and no panic if it sometimes goes over.

Bear in mind, I'm not diabetic and speaking purely from a healthy weight loss aspect. According to Dr Fung, keeping protein down reduces the loose skin you may be left with and since I'm old, I'd like to avoid that! But consideration of bsl is not top of my list.
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Can I ask what his recommendations are? I eat about 45 g and and 55 kg. I was eating 30 ish but felt that was a little too low. My insulin needs have gone up though. Still very small doses but still...
 
Sorry to take so long to reply, @Kristin251 but I've been away. Dr Fung believes we all eat too much protein and perhaps as little as 0.6g/kg would be sufficient for most. That's not sustainable for me but this is interesting: https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/how-much-protein-is-excessive/

But only you and your team can decide what's right for you. If I remember correctly, you have no weight issues and are speaking from the pov of keeping insulin needs to a minimum while I'm attempting to treat the disease of obesity without excessive bingo wings.
 
Thank you. I have a team but they leave it all up to me happy to say. I eat about 45 g animal / fish per day plus veg protein. Correct, no weight to lose but excess protein causes not only makes bs rise and weigh gain. I need animal/fish protein everyday but much Less than I thought. Actually much less food than I thought in general.
 
About protein shakes?
 
If you want to lose weight restrict your carbs - other than that eat all the protein and fat you like. It is a crazy situation, but most of what the dieting industry advises seems not to add up. Not really surprising as if they gave good advice, everyone got thin and stopped paying for weekly meetings they'd be looking for another job.
Insulin is the fat making hormone, carbs trigger its release, but if you get your energy from breaking down fat then your insulin response is low and you tend to go on breaking down fat. You also tend to waste energy - I am always warm when in ketosis, and you spill ketones into urine and get rid of them.
 
Resurgam said:
If you want to lose weight restrict your carbs - other than that eat all the protein and fat you like. It is a crazy situation, but most of what the dieting industry advises seems not to add up. Not really surprising as if they gave good advice, everyone got thin and stopped paying for weekly meetings they'd be looking for another job.
Insulin is the fat making hormone, carbs trigger its release, but if you get your energy from breaking down fat then your insulin response is low and you tend to go on breaking down fat. You also tend to waste energy - I am always warm when in ketosis, and you spill ketones into urine and get rid of them.
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Don't want to lose but gain muscle
 
Bluetit1802 said:
No. Without it we would die.

People with kidney disease have to be careful how much they eat but otherwise it's fine. There are guidelines.
In the UK, adults are advised to eat 0.75g of protein for each kilogram they weigh, based on the Reference Nutrient Intake (RNI). However, I eat far more than that, and always have done, and have never come to any harm. Yet. My kidney functions are spot on normal.
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This would be me also :)
 
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