What concerns me more than this exercise is that I just answered a member who needed help. The OP had over 80 views and yet not one person even attampted an answer despite the post being bumped up twice ! Where is the help and support this new member came here for !
frenchkittie said:cugila said:I think the consensus here is against this idea. ....
I don't know, this thread has had 788 views, but only 56 votes.
As it stands 18 voters think it is a good idea, 34 voters think it is a bad idea and 4 voters don't know/don't care.
What about the other 732? Even allowing for repeated views of the thread by those that actually voted, everyone else that read this seem (by their lack of vote) to fall into the "don't know/don't care" category.
viviennem said:I couldn't answer that post. It was outside my knowledge and experience, and as Catherinecherub had acknowledged it twice, little was to be gained by me adding a useless tuppence-worth!
Viv 8)
So what's good advice? Stuff you agree with? Stuff that works? How do you know? I think many people will see "letters after the name=good advice".Patch said:Can I ask - are those of you that are against professionals posting, actually against them posting completely, or against them being identified as professionals within their posts?
TBH - as far as I'm concerned, good advice is good advice, and I couldn't care less if the person offering it is identified as a qualified professional or not.
Hobnoblin said:I think it is a good idea but only if those professionals' qualifications can be validated in some way.
There's lot's of differing opinions about diabetes management on here and it's easy to attempt to rubbish someone on here just because you don't like what they have to say. It's shocking how some professionals have been treated. Some sort of validation would shut the nastier elements up.
cugila said:We have plenty of HCP's on here who are treated with courtesy, they don't come here with 'all guns blazing' as one long term member put it.
However any 'professional' with an attitude, and posts in a pompous arrogant manner deserves both barrels !
I have respect for the former - none for the latter !
sugarless sue said:I was told today, by a Doctor, that an Hba1c of 7.3% was good !
Did I accept that ? No I did not ! ( not my Hba1c BTW but a relative !) She said that they thought having it lower was unrealistic for some Diabetics as increasing medication has side effects ! When I pointed out that my relative was not on any medication she lost the place in her script and didn't know what to say.
Is this the sort of advice we will get from HCP's ?( not our regular members who are also Diabetics)
I have said in an earlier post, give our HCP members the kudos, their advice is sound and can be trusted.
sugarless sue said:Hobnoblin, Any Hba1c over 7 is considered going into complication territory. I don't think that has changed....just the 'dumbing' down of the guidelines !
cugila said:Hobnoblin
You reckon ? Is that why we get so many members coming on here complaining about the self same advice from the professionals. I listened to 'professionals' for many years and found that a lot of it was rubbish. As individuals we are all entitled to an opinion, just don't expect me to be in awe of a title......
cugila said:I suppose its OK for these self same professionals to come on here and belittle, insult and deride mods and members then ? They deserve more protection than those that think they know it all !
cugila said:Patch said:Unbeliever said:Maybe only HCP's who are also diabetic should be allowed.
This is a very good point. I don't think we should stop ANYONE posting - but HCP's with Diabetes would be most welcome.
What a good point .......
I must remember to ask my cardiologist if he has ever had a by-pass, ask my oncologist if he has ever had Cancer .........I am sure they will know much more about the conditions if they have.
Hobnoblin said:I low carb and not found many professionals that would agree with mebut I have looked at all the information out there and decided for myself what was best for me.
I low carb too.....have done for over two years on and off, carb amounts vary. My choice. I also don't eat much fat, it works well for me and has allowed me to come off meds, lose a shedload of weight and achieve great HbA1c and daily Bg numbers. so what I do works for me. My Diabetic Team, Endo and SDSN plus my GP all support my low carbing, I'm lucky in that respect.
Now, if someone on here tells me that I can't possibly be doing that, that it's not sustainable, that I must be drinking loads of alcohol, am sitting here behind a PC screen and hardly seeing daylight because of this and does it in an insulting manner.....do you think I should 'turn the other cheek just because I was a Mod here ?' No way Jose ! That person was accusing me of lying, a virtual alky and other stuff, attacking my integrity. Now I don't take kindly to that sort of talk from anybody, whatever anybody else thinks !
Mods here were previously allowed the freedom to defend themselves from such tactics and always had the backing of the Administrator. Well, now we have a new Admin and mods......I wonder what will happen when the same things happen to them, we shall see.
I don't want to mention names but there is one particular dietitian on here who has received an awful lot of stick, that just isn't on.
I agree, that member is a respected dietician who has always been courteous in all the dealings we had here. There was a time we disagreed and frequently clashed on the boards, that member is now a friend and we buried our differences here. Like civilised human beings and with mutual respect.
Same token in the past doctors have also received stick. Surely the more professionals we have on board the better. What an amazing resource for the newly diagnosed to have professionals on tap here. Wow!
Depends what they are here for......if they genuinely want to offer advice and support, that's fine by me. however, if they only want to promote themselves as some sort of expert above all others.......they can go whistle !
I think everyone should conduct themselves with good grace and courtesy. The mods should address any behaviour that contravenes the rules.
I agree, the person at the hub of all this was dealt with in accordance with the rules as they were at that time. That member was suspended to consider how they posted towards Mods and for credentials to be checked. All in accordance with the rules........however the rules got changed but nobody thought to tell the mods about that did they ? Lack of communication........
Otherwise I think it maybe a clash of styles. I sort of expert professionals to be business like in their responses. I would much rather give them the benefit of the doubt than dismiss them because I didn't like their posting style.
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