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Red and Processed Meat Bowel Cancer risk up to 20%

Discussion in 'Food, Nutrition and Recipes' started by Mbaker, Apr 17, 2019.

  1. Guzzler

    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    Yup. Do you want flowers or would you prefer donations?

    And, can I come up to your place?
     
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    Tophat1900 Type 3c · Well-Known Member

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    This is exactly why people believe this rubbish about red meat.

    If you want to convince the public of something, all you have to do is say, "A new study." And they'd believe oxygen is bad for you.
     
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    carty Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Don't want no fuss .6o clock ok ?
    Carol
     
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    Listlad Prediabetes · BANNED

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    I have just had an egg and bacon breakfast. And then am off to see the local nurse at the surgery to review my last blood glucose test etc. She eats a Palaeo diet. I will ask her what she thinks.
     
  5. Guzzler

    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    I suppose it comes down to trust. We trust those who we believe to have our best interests at heart. Some of these people break that trust which leads us to question everything about the people and the institutions they front not to mention the CoI. These people are fully aware of the quality of their studies and what the studies can/cannot imply or prove. Make no mistake, they know what they are doing and so do the editors of the journals that publish these studies. It is shameful.
     
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  6. Guzzler

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    I'll get me coat. :)
     
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  7. Guzzler

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    Wouldn't you rather look at the evidence and make up your own mind rather than be influenced by the opinion of a nurse? S/he may dismiss the study or may stick to the 'safe' path and just disseminate.
     
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    Tophat1900 Type 3c · Well-Known Member

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    Agreed, the outcome is already predetermined. It is shameful and at times corrupt.
     
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  9. Jim Lahey

    Jim Lahey I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Someone said recently in a podcast I listened to;

    “Good scientists interpret what they’re looking at. Bad scientists interpret what they’re looking for.”
     
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  10. Guzzler

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    I give you Ancel Keys.
     
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    Tophat1900 Type 3c · Well-Known Member

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    Yes, Sir!

    Engineers are fantastic at interpreting the data.
     
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  12. wiflib

    wiflib Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    I do like you
     
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  13. Jim Lahey

    Jim Lahey I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Precisely.

    The problem in my mind is that most people view science as an incorruptible and noble pursuit. The reality is there’s just as much flimflam and misdirection in science as there is in any other profession. Nutritional science, especially, is total Jackanory. All you have to do is say it, and everyone believes it. Humans are generally gullible and impressionable. Myself included until recently. My [forced] research into metabolism and nutrition has made me see the entire civilised world in a whole new light :D
     
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  14. Jim Lahey

    Jim Lahey I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Indeed. See my profile for further information ;)
     
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  15. Guzzler

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    It ain't rocket surgery but you do need the right sized spanner.
     
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    Um, so, so many conflicts of interest he might be up for a Guinness Book of records on the matter ??
     
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    Listlad Prediabetes · BANNED

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    I listen to everybody.
     
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    "Scientists" is a label thrown around recklessly at times. "Peer reviewed is another". We're living in a truly dumb world where no-one dares to question the mad statements anymore.
     
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    Listlad Prediabetes · BANNED

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    I agree with that.
     
  20. Guzzler

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    I'm glad that I did not listen to the nurse who gave me the diagnosis. I'm glad I questioned what she had said otherwise I might not be as healthy as I am today. Nurses, even DSNs, and GPs are given what amounts to hours worth of education on nutrition. The majority do not have the time or the inclination to keep up with research even if that research is sturdy.

    You are right to listen to everyone but in the end it is your health and your decision and learning to recognise what one should question is a must imo.
     
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