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Discussion in 'Newly Diagnosed' started by AM1874, Sep 28, 2017.

  1. AM1874

    AM1874 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Hi @Dmcc0 .. and welcome
    You have certainly made a good move coming here. Since joining this forum, the folks here have given me so much info, advice and support that I am now much more confident about the journey ahead. So ask your questions and be assured that you will receive the answers that you need. It can all seem uphill to start with but, in my experience, it gets easier .. very quickly.

    The key point to take on board now is that managing and controlling your diabetes through exercise, diet and testing your blood glucose seems to be the best way forward for many people. For me, committing to an LCHF (Low Carb High Fat) lifestyle and testing 3-5 times a day seems to be working and you'll find that there is a wealth of info, relevant advice and positive support about LCHF on the forum ..

    I have tagged @daisy1 for you and I suggest that you read up on the Low Carb Program in the information that she will soon be sending you. You might also find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. together with the following Diet Doctor websites, which will give you all the info that you need on what and what not to eat ...
    Low Carb Intro and Information and Low Carbs in 60 Seconds

    If you don't already have a test meter provided by your Doc or Nursie (unlikely) it is a top priority that you get yourself one and, for this, the following websites might help:
    for the SD Codefree meter, which costs £12.98 or:
    who distribute the TEE 2 meter, which is free.
    I have both which I alternate for comparative purposes and I have never found any significant difference between them.

    The cost of testing comes down to the ongoing charges for test strips and lancets. Make sure that you tick the appropriate box on the on-line order form and you won't pay VAT on your meter or strips.
    For the SD Codefree, the strips are £7.69 for a pack of 50 and there are discount codes available for bulk purchases:
    5 packs x 50 use code: 264086 .. cost is £29.49
    10 packs x 50 use code: 975833 .. cost is £58.98
    For the TEE 2, the strips are £7.75 for a pack of 50 .. but there are no discount codes currently available

    I'm testing 3-5 times a day which works out at around £10 to £12 per month for either of the two packages above but, more importantly, I now know what my BG levels are .. and I can now manage them

    Hope this helps
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  2. Guzzler

    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    Hi there and welcome, David. My diagnosis came out of the blue, too. No symptoms at all. Joining this forum was the luckiest thing I've done in a long time, I've learned so much here that has had a really positive effect on dealing with the diagnosis. Feel free to browse and ask any questions you have, the folks here are great at sharing. Best of luck.
  3. TooSweetForMe

    TooSweetForMe Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Hello, David - welcome! My diagnosis was kind-of unexpected but when I think about it I should have expected it. I hope you find all the help you need here.
  4. Jaylee

    Jaylee Type 1 · Master
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    Hi @Dmcc0 ,

    Welcome to the forum.

    Are you prescribed any medication for your diabetes?

    You certainly have made a good move joining us..
  5. willmax

    willmax Type 1 · Member

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    Hello everybody,

    I am a type 1 diabetic who was diagnosed in 1950. So have had diabetes for 67 years and throughout that time seen major changes in the types of treatment and therapy exercised within the NHS. Most of these have basically to mine and other diabetics advantage. I still have my sight with only very minor diabetic retinopathy. But I have had the lenses of both eyes replaced by means of cataract operations. Until the beginning of this year I have managed to maintain good health. I passed through junior and senior school, went to university in 1968, graduated with a B.Sc (Hons) in 1971 and Ph.D. in 1975. I then travelled to Jamaica to lecture at the University of the West Indies. I returned to the UK in 1979 being supported by a Commonwealth Universities Repatriation Fellowship at my alma mater. I then moved to St George's Hospital Medical School in Tooting, London in 1980 as a post doctoral research fellow. There I met my wife. In 1983 we married and moved to Glasgow Medical School at which I was appointed Lecturer in Human Anatomy. I made a couple of strong research links in Glasgow and travelled to present at scientific conferences in Europe, the east and west coasts of USA, in Japan and Australia. My diabetes did not prevent me doing these trips but I had to be extra conscientious not to have any hypoglycaemic episodes; only failing twice, once in Vienna and once between Japan and Hong Kong. I retired from university life in 2013. The only major complication that I have experienced from diabetes is development of cardiac failure associated with a dilated and weakened left ventricle of my heart. I have two adult sons neither of which has diabetes. But my elder son does suffer from coeliac disease which, as you all know, is linked to genetic abnormalities within the HLA gene complex also associated with type 1 diabetes. I attribute my health and longevity to the conscientious care that my father encouraged me to take of my condition, and, possibly, a generous portion of luck!
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  6. daisy1

    daisy1 Type 2 · Legend
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    Hello David and welcome to the Forum :) Here to help you is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask questions when you need to and someone will reply.


    Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

    A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 250,000 people who are demonstrating this.

    On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

    The role of carbohydrate

    Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

    If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

    The bad news

    Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

    The good news

    People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

    Controlling your carbs

    The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

    There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
    • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
    • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
    Reduce your carbohydrates

    A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

    The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

    Choosing better carbohydrates

    The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

    Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

    Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

    Eating what works for you

    Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

    To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

    The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

    Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
    • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
    However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

    Access to blood glucose test strips

    The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

    • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
    • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

    Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

    You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

    Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

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  7. therower

    therower Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Hello @willmax. What a truly inspirational post. For anyone unsure of what the future holds when first diagnosed a story like yours proves diabetes can be incorporated into our lives and make us special people.
    Occasionally a post pops up and I give the poster an award. It's just my way of saying that, for me you have achieved something special. I would like to offer you the award of " Top banana for the day ". Apologies if you don't like bananas.:):):)
  8. Dmcc0

    Dmcc0 Type 2 · Member

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    Hi @Jaylee, sorry for the delay in replying; it's been a hectic couple of weeks and not had much time to browse the forum.

    I haven't been prescribed anything for the moment, the DN that I saw said that they usually try "lifestyle change" initially and generally don't prescribe anything unless the patient struggles to get it under control by the time they come back for a check. I was given all the handouts etc, but I'd already found the forum and had an idea of what to expect - although didn't want to read too much beforehand as there seemed to be so many different approaches and massively differing advice depending on the source. Interestingly the handouts made a point of stressing I should have a portion of starchy carbs with each meal and eat more fruit and veg.

    I initially tried the advice of the DN/NHS Leaflets (swap white for brown carbs etc) but had no idea if it was making any difference as they said they don't hand out meters to T2. Ended up getting a meter myself (TEE2) as I really wanted to know how the changes were affecting me - turns out most of the stuff they recommend was still causing spikes (weetabix caused a 5 mmol/L rise!) . I've since cut down on the carbs and things seem to be going well, managing to keep within non-diabetic levels for the most part but still figuring out what things affect my BG; I'm finding the testing strangely addictive (if a little expensive)!
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