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Resistant starch and BG readings.

tomtom 2

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Location
Johnstone, Renfrewhshire.
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
I bought a codefree BG monitor today.
I havent used one for at least 10 years and going to record a week in my resistant starch diet starting tomorrow.
Started the diet in August last year and my Hab1c came down from 76 to 45 last reading was 2 months ago.
I have the chart made up and intend to update it daily, it will show my fasting BG, what I'm eating for each meal and the BG 2 hours after each meal.
Here is the chart link.
http://allstarsracing.info/Blood Glucose Chart.htm

Tom
 
OK thats the first days meals and BG results up.

http://allstarsracing.info/Blood Glucose Chart.htm

Was kinda surprised that my fasting BG was as high.
The banana seeems ok considering it only spiked 0.7 from the fasting BG.
The Overnight Oats is another slight surprise, I'm guessing that it was the cherries that made it as high.
I'll leave them out tomorrow to find out.
Funnily enough the John West Light Lunch spiked my BG the least.
The last result 10 was high but with what I had for my main meal could have been higher.

Should I be testing just before I eat? Or is what i'm doing good enough?

As I'm a cabbie I dont get any excercise and reckon if i did the BG's would be lower.
Retire in 4 months and hope to get a lot of excercise as I'll have plenty time for it.

Any thoughts on these readings would be gratefully appreciated as this is my first time doin BG since I was diagnosed 11 years ago and not really sure if they are OK or not.
 
My tip for measurement at the start is 3x for each meal: just before, one hour after to catch the spike and two hours after as post-prandial. This measurement will bring you the most information.
 
Day 4,

http://allstarsracing.info/Blood Glucose Chart.htm

Had my worst fasting BG so far.
Took 15g Potato Starch first thing.
Later when I thought about why i had such a bad fasting BG, I realised the previous night I forgot to take the 15g Potato Starch with my last meal and took it after my 2 hour post prandial BG.
I think this is why my Friday fasting BG was so high.
Reckon I'm taking too much of the potato starch so 2nd and 3rd meals I reduced to 5g Potato Starch and got better readngs.
Day 5, Saturday I intend to take 10g,10g & 5g for first 3 meals. In effect cutting down from 60g to 25g Potato Starch.

It's been a big learning curve so far and I intend to tweak the Potato Starch doses until I get best readings I can.


Tom
 
I bought a codefree BG monitor today.
I havent used one for at least 10 years and going to record a week in my resistant starch diet starting tomorrow.
Started the diet in August last year and my Hab1c came down from 76 to 45 last reading was 2 months ago.
I have the chart made up and intend to update it daily, it will show my fasting BG, what I'm eating for each meal and the BG 2 hours after each meal.
Here is the chart link.
http://allstarsracing.info/Blood Glucose Chart.htm

Tom

Ive heard of resistant starch but is there a specific diet related to it? Or any websites to go to for more info?
 
@Dexie1

Hi there,

Here are some links that will help explain Resistant Starch and what it does.

This one gives a good overall explanation.
https://www.southdenver.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Resistant-Starch-for-web.pdf

This one has lots of infomation.
https://resistantstarchresearch.com/

And here you can see how much is needed to be eaten daily for different benefits also shows type of foods to eat.
https://resistantstarchresearch.com/posts/3-levels-of-benefits/

The chart that I put up only states that the supplement I am taking is potato starch, I buy mine from amazon It is called Top Op Farina.

I currently take 4 x 2 tsp daily usually with meals, 40 grams in total.

Every day I have the semi green banana (the greener the better but not totally green) and overnight oats, these are high in fibre and Resistant Starch.
I take these so that the potato starch is carried as far as possible thro' the colon as this is where the benficial bacteria live.

My hba1c has gone down from 76 to 54 and now 45 since starting this diet August last year and I'm finding it very easy to stick with.

I believe that you can eat pretty much whatever you like within reason as long as you get more than 20 grams RS daily.

Hope this helps,

Tom
 
Its an interesting experiment, but I'm not convinced from your numbers . If you love the diet then I guess it makes sense to stick to it, but I'm struggling to see the particular health benefit from what you have posted.

It may well be that it is having all the benefits set out but its not particularly showing through. It might be worthwhile to invest in an Abbott freestyle monitor - its £50 for two weeks and that would allow you to see how high / if all these carbs and fibres are spiking you after meals .

My own hba1C came down from 92 to 34 over 18 months and now I rarely ever see an 8 at any time and spend most of the day 4.5- 5.0 that was just eating a regular LCHF diet. If one assumes that pretty much " anything within reason " excludes eating junk food, then I would say that I can pretty much do that now without the starch and without yet being slim . I suspect yhe more you tweak your diet by removing it, the better your numbers will become.
 
@Dexie1

Hi there,

Here are some links that will help explain Resistant Starch and what it does.

This one gives a good overall explanation.
https://www.southdenver.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Resistant-Starch-for-web.pdf

This one has lots of infomation.
https://resistantstarchresearch.com/

And here you can see how much is needed to be eaten daily for different benefits also shows type of foods to eat.
https://resistantstarchresearch.com/posts/3-levels-of-benefits/

The chart that I put up only states that the supplement I am taking is potato starch, I buy mine from amazon It is called Top Op Farina.

I currently take 4 x 2 tsp daily usually with meals, 40 grams in total.

Every day I have the semi green banana (the greener the better but not totally green) and overnight oats, these are high in fibre and Resistant Starch.
I take these so that the potato starch is carried as far as possible thro' the colon as this is where the benficial bacteria live.

My hba1c has gone down from 76 to 54 and now 45 since starting this diet August last year and I'm finding it very easy to stick with.

I believe that you can eat pretty much whatever you like within reason as long as you get more than 20 grams RS daily.

Hope this helps,

Tom

Thanks Tom. I read an article by Michael Mosley from 2014 I think talking about resistant starch. It was a small study they did for his tv program ‘trust me I’m a doctor’. Interestingly they found that cooking pasta then reheating it had and even greater positive effect. But it was only a small study with about 10-14 people I think.

Here’s the link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-29629761
 
@CherryAA

"Its an interesting experiment, but I'm not convinced from your numbers . If you love the diet then I guess it makes sense to stick to it, but I'm struggling to see the particular health benefit from what you have posted."

Thanks for showing interest in this.

I dont love the diet but I'm happy with it because I can eat whatever I like within reason as long as I get my Resistant Starch quota daily.

I wasn't sure what my readings would be but now that I look closely at them they mostly seem to be in Pre-Diabetic range which only confirms what my Hba1c results have shown.

As for you not being convinced about the BG numbers comes as no surprise to me, as the BG spikes would probably be a good bit higher if you took the carb rich meals because of the type of diet you are on.


"It may well be that it is having all the benefits set out but its not particularly showing through. It might be worthwhile to invest in an Abbott freestyle monitor - its £50 for two weeks and that would allow you to see how high / if all these carbs and fibres are spiking you after meals ."

I can only tell you about the benefits I've experienced so far.

My Hba1c is coming down. From 76 to 45 in 6 months.

I've lost weight 49lbs.

My past High blood pressure is now down to normal 120/70 or less.

I have more energy.

Had a patch of skin on my shin that bled every time I absentmindedly scatched if it itched there, this has now healed over.

I have no intention of buying another BG monitor as I go for full blood analysis in June and the monitor I'm using at present gives me a general indication of how my BG's are.


"My own hba1C came down from 92 to 34 over 18 months and now I rarely ever see an 8 at any time and spend most of the day 4.5- 5.0 that was just eating a regular LCHF diet. If one assumes that pretty much " anything within reason " excludes eating junk food, then I would say that I can pretty much do that now without the starch and without yet being slim . I suspect yhe more you tweak your diet by removing it, the better your numbers will become."

Kudos to you working for hard at the LCHF diet as it is working for you that's great.
I tried a similar diet years ago called the Atkins Diet did help me but found it too restrictive.

Not sure what you mean about the Junk Foods that I'm eating I suspect you are referring to the Carb Rich foods I have these because I can and they don't seem to be spiking my BG too much.

In my opinion Junk Food is food that has little to no nutritional value.
To me that would be sweets, cakes & biscuits, I only eat these very occassionally.

When I said anything within reason I was talking about taking the not so healthy stuff occassionally.

What I didnt like when I done the Atkins Diet was when I was socialising, couldn't have what I wanted to eat or drink and found It too hard.

Maybe it's just me that hasn't the will power for a LCHF diet and the way you count the carbs and use your BG & ketone monitors to decide when to eat but kudos to you guys that do, It's just for me that The Resistant Starch diet is easy to follow and stick to.
 
@Dexie1

Yeah i watched that program.
The experiment was done in an Italian restaurant where the non diabetic workers there took the same meal over 3 days.
First day the had it normal and their BG was taken to show how it spiked 1hr and 2 hrs after.
Day 2 had same meal cold and BG readings were lower.
Day 3 had same meal reheated and BG readings were lower again.
 
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Just a thought do you have the data for the same meals without the resistant starch? That would be an interesting comparison.
 
@bulkbiker
Sorry I only just recently started monioring my BG's, so I have no previous data.
Could be an idea to stop the RS for a week or so but have the same meals to see if it is really having the effect you believe it is?
You don't seem to be eating a lot are you restricting calories?
 
I have done a few experiments with RS and have found
1) a green banana has minimal impact on my blood sugars ( less than 1mmol rise) whereas a yellow one sent them ballistic ( over 6 point rise) the last time I tested one ( many years ago tho)
2) the effect was similay with cooked cooled and reheated brown rice vs freshly cooked brown rice
The experiments are recent and the ballistic results historical - I have no intention of eating a yellow banana or freshly cooked rice to ‘prove’ they would still send my sugars ballistic I know for sure that my diabetes hasnt gone away
 
I can get that eating resistant starch has less effect on your BG than eating non-resistant starch. With luck you can eat things like pasta and rice cooked the right way without major BG spikes.

I still haven't grasped the jump from that to deliberately eating resistant start to improve your insulin response to other foods which are chock full of non-resistant starch..
 
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