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Results of HbA1c

Michelle_BBB

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Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
Hello’s

As some what expected my results came back that I have T2, not sure how how %’s work but mine was 10% 86, mmol/mol . Started me 500mg of Metformin to build up to 3 a day over 3 weeks .... hoping I’ll start feeling a little more human soon ... any tips on ‘anything’ will be thankfully received xxx
 
Hello ! I'm sure @daisy1 will send you the 'new member's 'pack' - but you can also find it on the sticky thread of the 'newly diagnosed section' - good luck and remember there's no such thing as a stupid question !
 
If you have any tummy issues with the Metformin don't hesitate to go back to the gp and ask to try the slow release version. I had no adverse effects but some people do.
 
Hello and welcome. Its abit of a steep learning curve, isn't it?
The good thing is that this site and this forum are quite literally life savers.
I too am on metformin and unlike some people I have been really lucky and no problems at all. You will have to try and see how it goes.
Have you had a chance to have a read around the site yet? I think you will see that most on here are very pro active about thier own health. Diet is the single biggest thing you can change andit will make a huge difference in a surprisingly short time.
Have a big cup of tea and read everything you can find. The advice, support and encouragement I found from the people on here has been amazing, and all you have to do is read, ask questions and start!.
Good luck with it all.
 
Hello’s

As some what expected my results came back that I have T2, not sure how how %’s work but mine was 10% 86, mmol/mol . Started me 500mg of Metformin to build up to 3 a day over 3 weeks .... hoping I’ll start feeling a little more human soon ... any tips on ‘anything’ will be thankfully received xxx

At least you now know and can settle into controlling it.

The 10% and the 86 are the same thing. The % is an old style of measurement that was used until about 2011 when the mmol/mol measurement took over, but some labs still use the old style.

It means your average blood glucose as per our finger prick meters is 13.3mmol/l, so basically you have been spending as much time above 13.3 as you have below it. (putting it very simply). As you know, this is quite high.

It is time to read round these forums to see what others do to get levels lower and keep them lower. Reducing carbs is the first step, and using your meter to learn which your personal danger foods alongside a food diary is an excellent way to do this.
Test all your meals before you eat and 2 hours after first bite, look at the difference between the two readings. If it is more than 2mmol/l there are too many carbs in that meal. Record these levels in your food diary, which should include everything in that meal (also snacks). You will soon notice patterns and be able to reduce the carb portion size or eliminate some completely.
 
@Michelle_BBB

Hello Michelle and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask more questions whenever you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 250,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
I went straight to low carb eating and although I started off higher than you at the 6 month check I was not even in the pre-diabetic range. I'd like to know what I will be at the one year mark, but my doctor and nurse do not want to see me until my next annual health check in six months time.
I might just be lucky, but I can really recommend changing to low carb foods to reduce both your day to day blood glucose and Hba1c results.
I took Metformin and a statin and felt terrible for 5 weeks, as they can have some horrible side effects. My memory is getting better, but my hair is still so thin - I used to be so vain about my hair being so thick and still dark even though I was in my mid 60s - it is still dark, but most of it is in the bin - I should have collected it and had a wig made.
 
Test all your meals before you eat and 2 hours after first bite, look at the difference between the two readings. If it is more than 2mmol/l there are too many carbs in that meal.

i find this very confusing. i don't eat large meals, but they're sometimes spread out over quite a long time, say 1-1.5 hours. so if i test 2 hrs after my first bite, it may only be 30 minutes after i've finished the last part of my meal - and if the carbs i've eaten are concentrated in the later part of my meal, won't that skew my figures? i was told to measure 2 hours after finishing a meal, so that is what i do. i don't eat for at least 5 hours after finishing a meal completely.
 
hoping I’ll start feeling a little more human soon ... any tips on ‘anything’ will be thankfully received xxx
HI Michelle_BBB welcome to the forum and the wonderful world of diabetes!!!! :meh: as others have said, there's huge amounts of info and support here - hope the adjustment isn't too stressful, and remember, it does take some time to get body, head and emotions around all this, so be gentle with yourself!
 
When you test doesn't really matter as long as you are consistent in your methods.
You might do a couple of tests and check every half hour after two typical meals. If you are spiking really high then you know that level of carbs is too much for you to cope with and make modifications. If you then test at the time you saw the highest numbers and it is lower then you have a good idea of how you need to proceed.
 
This may not be to everyone's likeing but I've been diagnosed about six weeks. I slammed out all carbs completely for 4 weeks and got my reading down to 6 average then introduced a little carb. It's very individual I've found as some people swear not to eat white rice for example. I'm OK with rice in moderation. A mate type 2 as well cannot eat banana again I'm OK with that. But give me white bread or a wrap bsa Nd watch me fly lol.
I'm now 2gram metformin a day and stable. You can do it. Once it's under control you'll feel OK..... But that take time. At first being in normal range I felt awful. Like hypo awful especially below 5. 4to 7 is normal. But your body will adjust just give it time..... A few weeks.
Excercise is awesome for me in terms of lowering bm. Ive always enjoyed running and cycling anyway so that's useful. Weights I'm told is very good at lowering and maintaining also.

Stick with it. That's my advise. And this place is awesome for help and support.

Good luck
 
i find this very confusing. i don't eat large meals, but they're sometimes spread out over quite a long time, say 1-1.5 hours. so if i test 2 hrs after my first bite, it may only be 30 minutes after i've finished the last part of my meal - and if the carbs i've eaten are concentrated in the later part of my meal, won't that skew my figures? i was told to measure 2 hours after finishing a meal, so that is what i do. i don't eat for at least 5 hours after finishing a meal completely.
I also test 2 hours after I have finished eating & leave at least 4.5/5 hours before I eat anything again to give time for my blood sugar and natural insulin to reduce and make sure I am actually hungry again. Agree that consistency in your approach is important...
 
Hi @Michelle_BBB you may be given quite a lot of advice. From the establishment you may be told to lose weight and eat pretty much like non-diabetics. You may be told type 2's don't need to test blood sugars, just take Metformin, this is a generalisation.

My opinion is that yes lose weight if you can, ask for a blood glucose monitor and strips, eat low carb and possibly investigate high fat. High fat takes some getting used to mentally as we have been indoctrinated to fear fat, but there is a difference between good and bad fats, which you might what to investigate, for example real butter is much better than margarine and many (including me) find full fat natural yogurt better the low fat versions - it is worth researching good fats.

You have options about where your goals could be such as maintain status quo (which I believe you do not want to do), get good control of your type 2, possible reversal or remission. The latter 2 options can be worked towards by some or a combination of the following:
  1. LCHF - Low Carb High Fat
  2. LCHF Keto (circa less than 50 grams of carbs, may need 30 grams or less)
  3. Newcastle Diet - a 600 to 800 calorie 8 to 12 week diet
  4. WFPB - Whole Food Plant Based (lower carb version)
Within the above it is possible to eat in the Vegetarian and Vegan methodologies if meat, fish and diary were not your thing. Diet is around 80% of the potential to getting back on track and perhaps under guidance from your medical team you may be able to incorporate some walking.
 
If you have any tummy issues with the Metformin don't hesitate to go back to the gp and ask to try the slow release version. I had no adverse effects but some people do.

Most people find the issues stop after a few days if they incrase the dose of Metformin slowly. So give it at least 2 weeks before asking for the slow release version. (The slow release version does not work as well.)
 
I also test 2 hours after I have finished eating & leave at least 4.5/5 hours before I eat anything again to give time for my blood sugar and natural insulin to reduce and make sure I am actually hungry again. Agree that consistency in your approach is important...

another helpful reply, thank you.
 
Michelle, if your journey is anything like mine there will be plenty of ups and downs but it will definitely be worth it. Reactions to food are individual as Bigbassett says but in general I have found Carb control is the key. If I could offer 2 pieces of helpful advice I would say test regularly and apply the law of small numbers - a little less carbs here and there over the course of a day makes a big difference.
 
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