HI Bebo
An interesting result. Small sample - bu that is not a criticism. What I think is worth considering is the extent to which people have managed their goals through being part of a group. I do work with doctors - specialists - and they seem genuinely interested in the 'method' of reversal - not the 'fact' of it which by now seems to be well accepted.
I think there is always going to be a range of personality types which find success via different routes and not everyone wants to be part of a group - but a support group such as this one seems to be having its own success - as your survey indicates - and that is not a bad thing.
@Bebo321
This will seem wild but one builds up to it has been my experience. I have had good control 100mg/dl (5.6mmol/L) to 125mg/dl for the last two years but eventually I got fed up even with good control because of the neuropathy. I'd been doing 18 hour fasts per www.tinyurl.com/Dr-JasonFung and while they helped I was still starting the day with what I've been told is a diabetic 5.6+ mmol/L 100+mg/dl number . I just thought the heck with this and push it and see where it goes. My seven day average is now 91mg/dland 14 day average is 97mg/dl. Both of these are non diabetic numbers. As for the hunger after a day, if you drink lots of water and fluids you don't notice the hunger too much. You really don't.
As for your question (2) I've not gotten there yet. I am just trying to allow my body to repair itself with these lower numbers for the time being. My BMI is 23.8 as I type this and while I'm not heavy now I've still got a muffin top with some of closet full of nicely worn in jeans.. I've got to read more from Fung and start thinking about his issue for the time being I am grateful that my numbers are in the normal range.
I read Dr. Fung's book on Intermittent Fasting (IF) and followed the "recipe" for alternate fasting. My numbers went from A1c of 13 to 5. Amazing. I owe it all to Dr. Fung. Hope my one toe stops tingling soon, the longer I keep my numbers in the normal range. It's not hard and the side effect of fasting, is weight loss. Thanks for listening
but surely that means there has to be something in that process to be researched to find out what it is that stops it in its tracks.
Improvement or remission of diabetes with gastric bypass occurs early after surgery and before there is significant weight-loss. The weight-loss independent mechanisms of diabetes improvement after gastric bypass are partially explained by changes in hormones produced by the gut after the surgery, and this is an active area of research in the field of metabolic and bariatric surgery.
Thank you, I listened to all of it and it was very helpful and informative.This is an old, old topic. But @Lolhere, I think you'll find this new lecture by Ivor Cummins (The Fat Emperor) interesting. He explains why gastric bypass "instantly" reverses diabetes - (but there are better ways to accomplish this so no one is suggesting doing it).
The discussion begins at minute 8:38 and the part you're interested in begins it's conclusion at minute 11:07, but I encourage you to listen to the entire lecture. It's quite good...
I saw a documentary that showed having surgery didn't just reverse diabetes, it was stopped at the point of surgery! I am not wanting this & hope I don't get to that point, but surely that means there has to be something in that process to be researched to find out what it is that stops it in its tracks.
I read Dr. Fung's book on Intermittent Fasting (IF) and followed the "recipe" for alternate fasting. My numbers went from A1c of 13 to 5. Amazing. I owe it all to Dr. Fung. Hope my one toe stops tingling soon, the longer I keep my numbers in the normal range. It's not hard and the side effect of fasting, is weight loss. Thanks for listening
I think I am in the process of reversing my reversal.
Trouble is there are too many variables, getting older by the day be just one. Like you I have seen my readings rise - higher and faster than yours. I console myself with the fact that I can still induce a sub 5 reading.I think I am in the process of reversing my reversal.
Trouble is there are too many variables, getting older by the day be just one. Like you I have seen my readings rise - higher and faster than yours. I console myself with the fact that I can still induce a sub 5 reading.
LBTB has a point, a bike ride seems to be more beneficial than walking, swimming or running. I dont know about weight as after 10 mins I get bored. Trouble with a bike round my way is though I might get my BS down some Dutch HGV driver is likely to flatten me!
I hope to move near the beach in the next few years. 20 years ago I was lucky enough to live 200 yards from the first sustrans cycle path, and cycled to work every day. Now I need to ride, for the sake of my health not to get from A to B
Would like to hear your story. Which fasting approach did u follow? and what was your meal schedules on non-fasting days? What about exercise?Low Carb High Fat and fasting has done it for me. Don't worry about calories and rarely hungry.
Regards
Mark
My story is mostly hereWould like to hear your story. Which fasting approach did u follow? and what was your meal schedules on non-fasting days? What about exercise?
My story is mostly here
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/one-year-in-thank-you-all.110499/
Intermittent fasting with some extended and a very low carb diet.
Exercise.. only began recently because I have so much more energy. For my first 18 months no more than usual.
Also some more experiments logged on my blog
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/blog/bulkbiker.219467/
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