Everyone else is confused too, including the experts. We don't really know for sure whether butter, salted or otherwise and other saturated fats as in the dripping from cooked meat, and palm oil really raise cholesterol. We don't know if raised cholesterol causes blocked arteries. We don't know if soya oil, peanut oil, olive oil, rape seed oil etc etc are good for us or bad, better than saturated fats or worse. Lots of people have very strong convictions on this subject, and you can read some conflicting opinions on this thread.Can a type 1 diabetic eat butter or salted butter. I heard about low carbs high fat diet. This diet will control your sugar,but what about chlorostral. I am confused. Please advice. Thanks
One and only time ever?We actually agree on something!
You might not have the same results, of course, but on a LCHF diet with real fats and no worrying, my triglycerides were 2 after 3 months and 1.5 after 6 - so with a test group of one person I found that the fats increase bad cholesterol advice to be wrong - all my ratios were normal good or idea..
It is what happens when someone gets an idea into their heads and goes all out to prove themselves right, with no regard of the data, and it seems so plausible after all.
All I wanted to do was reduce my blood glucose, and that worked wonderfully too.
I have a history of high blood cholesterol and I have been on a low fat diet, no butter, no cream, no eggs,little cheese, veg oil, for nearly 40 yrs. And it made not one bit of difference. I have the blood results to prove it.
After the last lecture at the hospital, about eating the low fat diet I was already on, I was so angry, I started the LCHF diet. I had nothing to lose and eating low fat had not worked.
Within a month of starting LCHF, my blood cholesterol results improved and they have stayed good. My last consultant letter congratulates me on my lowered levels but is surprised, because I am eating more eggs, cheese and butter than I have eaten in the last 40 years. I make sure I tell him that every time I see him so he has to write it in the notes.
I would suggest you do what I did, listen and read the evidence and make your own choice. If you have diabetes you have a high risk of heart disease, and all the other complications, controlling that would be my first concern.
I suggest you watch this .I have to say I am quite frankly angry that hospital consultants are doing the equivalent of sticking fingers in their ears rather than examine the results of LCHF in a sensible manner.
I have a history of high blood cholesterol and I have been on a low fat diet, no butter, no cream, no eggs,little cheese, veg oil, for nearly 40 yrs. And it made not one bit of difference. I have the blood results to prove it.
After the last lecture at the hospital, about eating the low fat diet I was already on, I was so angry, I started the LCHF diet. I had nothing to lose and eating low fat had not worked.
Within a month of starting LCHF, my blood cholesterol results improved and they have stayed good. My last consultant letter congratulates me on my lowered levels but is surprised, because I am eating more eggs, cheese and butter than I have eaten in the last 40 years. I make sure I tell him that every time I see him so he has to write it in the notes.
I would suggest you do what I did, listen and read the evidence and make your own choice. If you have diabetes you have a high risk of heart disease, and all the other complications, controlling that would be my first concern.
I suggest you watch this .I have to say I am quite frankly angry that hospital consultants are doing the equivalent of sticking fingers in their ears rather than examine the results of LCHF in a sensible manner.
Climbing down off my salt box now but dramatically reducing salt in your diet is good for your overall health and we all know that good health practices and healthy eating is good for Diabetics.
Unsalted butter or margarine. "Salt is the silent killer".
Climbing down off my salt box now but dramatically reducing salt in your diet is good for your overall health and we all know that good health practices and healthy eating is good for Diabetics.
Butter is a natural fat and far better for you than spreads made with vegetable oils etc. The problem is that these can go through unhealthy processes in their manufacturing. Better to stick with real butter, than man made spreads. It's more or less general knowledge now that cholesterol is produced within the body and that it is essential for survival, since it's involved in the synthesis of hormones and also in cell transport. Dietary cholesterol contributes only a small amount to total cholesterol levels.Oh!! that is very useful information that you gave me. Day by day I am learning how harmful too much carbs can be.....so I think a small quantity of butter is not harmful.......Thanks a lot for your reply. Have a nice day.
Surely virtually all edible oils are made from seeds or vegetables?
Seed oils: Rapeseed, sunflower, grapeseedHi wiflib..how are you today. Now what exactly you mean by seed or vegetable oils...can you explain in bit details......thanks a lot.
I am so happy for you. Did you include also butter in your high fat diet......if yes, how much. What do you exactly mean by real fats....Thanks for your reply.
Butter is a natural product. Vegetable, olive, sunflower, rapeseed oils etc are also natural products. However, when those vegetable fats and oils are converted into spreadable products, then they are not so good-they have been hydrogenated, and even if it is made with plant sterols is still hydrogenated fat. Looking up hydrogenated fats produces this-Why wouldn't you include butter in a high fat diet? Do you need to read up a little on basic nutrition and what the major food groups are, maybe? Also check out the recent research on fat in the diet and cholesterol. A good website is Diet Doctor.com, you can join free and there is a lot of good information there.
Preaching to the converted. I was asking facetiosly why you wouldn't use butter in a Low carb high fat diet..........Butter is a natural product. Vegetable, olive, sunflower, rapeseed oils etc are also natural products. However, when those vegetable fats and oils are converted into spreadable products, then they are not so good-they have been hydrogenated, and even if it is made with plant sterols is still hydrogenated fat. Looking up hydrogenated fats produces this-
"Hydrogenation is the process that turns liquid oil into a more solid fat. Liquid oils are ‘hardened’ by adding hydrogen to stabilise the fat, making it easier to use in recipes for biscuits, cakes, pastry, and other processed foods.
You can tell how ‘saturated’ a fat is by its texture at room temperature. Saturated fats like lard, fat on meat and cheese are solid at room temperature, whereas unsaturated fats - such as vegetable oils - are liquid at room temperature. As an unsaturated oil is gradually more hydrogenated, the inserted hydrogen atoms make it firmer and more solid at room temperature.
Usually, the hydrogen slips naturally into the fat at the point where there is a gap (called an ‘unsaturated bond’) in the fat structure. The position it takes up is called the ‘cis��� position, which occurs naturally in nature as well.
Sometimes the hydrogen slips into the gap in a different position, altering the overall shape of the final fat. The ‘trans’ position of the inserted hydrogen alters the overall shape of the fat, making it difficult for our body to process. Foods containing hydrogenated vegetable oil (always declared in the ingredients list) may therefore also contain trans fats.
Trans fats found in food have no known nutritional benefit and appear to be harmful. They increase blood cholesterol levels and independently increase the risk of heart disease. Some evidence suggests that the effects of these trans fats may be worse than saturated fats.
So, as part of a healthy diet we should try to reduce the amount of foods we eat that contain hydrogenated or saturated fats and replace them with unsaturated fats.
Foods that are rich in unsaturated fats include oily fish, avocados, nuts and sunflower, rapeseed and olive oils.
Trans fats are also naturally found at very low levels in foods such as dairyproducts, beef and lamb. However, the type of trans fat found in dairy products (such as milk, cheese and cream) is different to other types of trans fat and are not considered harmful to health".
So, although I use rapeseed oil and olive oil in dressings and cooking, I use butter too. I'd rather have a little of the real thing than a lot of something made up!
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