The new glucose diet book, any experiences?

[Garrick]

Hi I am type 2, for about a year. Hba1c about 53, coming down slowly. I did keto a year ago, but found, even though it dropped me into the pre diabetic range at the time , I personally could not sustain it. However I am quite excited by the new blood sugar book, by the glucose goddess, forgot name sorry. I have been eating a salad with vinegar dressing before a meal that contains carbs in small amounts and spikes have been ok for me. I also have been eating fibre, then fat and protein, and then carbs. It is too early for me to say if it is going to work. Has anyone had any success with this type of eating? What convinced me that this maybe a good idea, is the fact many French follow This order of eating, and have much lower levels of diabetes. love To know anyones Experience.

 

[ianf0ster]

I never went actually keto, just very low carb (20gms to 40gms of carbs per day) so for example I can eat berries and 90% cocoa chocolate) without going over the 40gms of carbs since even a whole 100gm bar of 90% Lindt is just 14gms of carbs. I have no experience of eating food types in specific order etc, just of low carb and time restricted eating (which has worked for thousands in the UK alone).
Since keto got you into pre-diabetic blood glucose levels I'm surprised that you didn't just relax that a little in order to make it more sustainable rather than going off at a tangent.

Good luck with your experiment.

 

[lucylocket61]

What you are doing is having long, slow higher than normal levels for a long time, instead of spikes. All that is happening is that the carb load is being spread to give a false sense of lower 24/7 blood sugar levels. Your body is still reacting the same way to carbs, just for longer. I don't see how this really helps. It just disguises the carb processing problem.

 

[Garrick]

But if you are having small amounts of carb, IF, it is being offset By eating fibre first, is that bad? I understand that keto is the way forward, and it did great things for my readings, but, to me, i personally, feel keto, is unnatural to my body. I felt I was eating too much full fat an dairy, don’t get me wrong, I know the science works. But I just felt overwhelmed with protein and fat . I know it works, but it feels unhealthy. I have felt much better eating a cider vinegar salad before meals, and I suppose really, it suppresses your appetite for the main meal. I’m going to try it anyway, and I will post results in a few months.

 

[lucylocket61]

How does eating fibre first offset the carbs

 

[Ronancastled]

She's posts everything up on Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/glucosegoddess/?hl=en

She wears a CGM then does these type of experiments, she's not diabetic btw

 

[lucylocket61]

She's posts everything up on Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/glucosegoddess/?hl=en

She wears a CGM then does these type of experiments, she's not diabetic btw

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I dont do instagram, but is it safe to assume that the responses of a non-diabetic are not going to be the same as for a diabetic? I have googled her book, and it doesnt mention its for diabetics.

 

[Lobsang Tsultim]

But if you are having small amounts of carb, IF, it is being offset By eating fibre first, is that bad? I understand that keto is the way forward, and it did great things for my readings, but, to me, i personally, feel keto, is unnatural to my body. I felt I was eating too much full fat an dairy, don’t get me wrong, I know the science works. But I just felt overwhelmed with protein and fat . I know it works, but it feels unhealthy. I have felt much better eating a cider vinegar salad before meals, and I suppose really, it suppresses your appetite for the main meal. I’m going to try it anyway, and I will post results in a few months.

I can understand the feeling of being overwhelmed by fat and protein. But that’s why some nights I just have nice bowl of vegetable curry, just with low carb vegetables. I look forward to hearing how you get on but I suspect it won’t make much difference.

 

[Outlier]

Be careful with cider vinegar - it can play Old Harry with your teeth. As can all vinegars.

 

[lucylocket61]

I just wanted to comment on the fries ...can’t be good for anyone diabetes or no diabetes...

Why? My non diabetics here are fine with fries

 

[MrsA2]

@Garrick there's almost as many ideas out there on how to cope with diabetes as there are Instagrams users. Sadly there's no regulation of who can post what.
This particular woman has done extremely well at growing an audience very quickly. Doesn't mean she's right though. Her tests and the graphics she posts are only based on her own body. Best practice scientific research uses much much larger datasets.
I'm not saying she's wrong, I'm not saying she's right, she's just one person with an opinion and who has found a route to sell her book.
Here's what one person wrote about her methods and theories

The Glucose Goddess Review - Are Her 7 Hacks Legit?

Who is the Glucose Goddess? I dissect the Glucose Goddess hacks to see which ones stand up to current science.

abbylangernutrition.com

Just be careful , and glad you thought to come here to seek experienced opinions

 

[Garrick]

I can understand the feeling of being overwhelmed by fat and protein. But that’s why some nights I just have nice bowl of vegetable curry, just with low carb vegetables. I look forward to hearing how you get on but I suspect it won’t make much difference.

Thanks, I’m going to try it, because I am intrigued, by what she is saying. I understand that it is not scientific, but, well let’s see.

 

[Garrick]

I never went actually keto, just very low carb (20gms to 40gms of carbs per day) so for example I can eat berries and 90% cocoa chocolate) without going over the 40gms of carbs since even a whole 100gm bar of 90% Lindt is just 14gms of carbs. I have no experience of eating food types in specific order etc, just of low carb and time restricted eating (which has worked for thousands in the UK alone).
Since keto got you into pre-diabetic blood glucose levels I'm surprised that you didn't just relax that a little in order to make it more sustainable rather than going off at a tangent.

Good luck with your experiment.

Yes I did go off on a tangent. One thing I have learned is eating more carbs , makes you hungrier. But all protein and fat makes me feel depressed. I need a balance.this is why I’m going to try this. She is acting like she has found something. But as I said French and lots of Italians eat this way. The “degustation’, first salad, then meat and fats, then carbs. I am not advocating this, I am interested in a way a eating that has been around for centuries. It’s a layman experiment, keto is not for me, it will be interesting to see what happens. I suspect myself that the salad is not so much lowering your glucose, probably if you eat salad then fats and protein, then carbs, you are going to eat less carbs, because you are full.anyway, why not, it will be interesting to see what happens.

 

[Garrick]

How does eating fibre first offset the carbs

It “apparently “ stops the carbs being absorbed so quickly. I am as sceptical as well, but I am going to try it and give honest results. No harm in that. It is not being backed by hard science, but it coul be interesting.

 

[Garrick]

@Garrick I can relate to your issue regarding high fat, protein and Keto. I’m struggling with a similar issue. I won’t bore you with my digestive issues. But I must say having protein with every meal and low carb has certainly helped me lower my blood sugars. If you love salad and it suits you all you need is to just add some protein. Just bear in mind that amount of protein and what is low carb varies from person to person. Part of being overwhelmed is to do with starting something all over again and it all seems too much at once mentally and for our digestive system. Especially if we have suceeded before It seems challenging even more so! I’m still making changes 4 months in that’s personal to me but draw on the experiences of folks on the forum - adjusting and tweaking my meals that work for me and I do check my meter.

Best of luck.

Thankyou, I’m not talking having chips with everything lol, maybe a tiny bit that gives you a reason to eat, but not enough to start cravings for carbs.i understand that keto works for a lot of people, I have an omelette many mornings and enjoy it, but I’m saying, for me I cannot sustain. I understand that everyone is different. A newly diagnosed vs somebody with neuropathy /retinopathy is a different ballgame..

 

[Garrick]

What you are doing is having long, slow higher than normal levels for a long time, instead of spikes. All that is happening is that the carb load is being spread to give a false sense of lower 24/7 blood sugar levels. Your body is still reacting the same way to carbs, just for longer. I don't see how this really helps. It just disguises the carb processing problem.

Yes maybe

 

[Garrick]

How does eating fibre first offset the carbs

It apparently causes a scenario whereby, carbs are not processed straight away, so the spike is less, because the fibre are being processed first. I am sceptical , but I’m going to try.

 

[Garrick]

Can I say I’m not interested in instagram at all. I bought her book, and I think, she had a germ of something. I have bought every diabetic book under the sun since I was diagnosed. every one has a thing to say, all of them are right.

 

[Mrs HJG]

Hi @Garrick and anyone else following this thread, Jessie Inchauspé (Glucose Goddess) is a scientist and all of her glucose spike hacks, (not just the eat your veggies first, and ACV) are based of scientific studies by others, she's not randomly making it up and testing herself!

95% of the time I eat salad, (or a babybel at breakfast), before the rest of my lowish carb (15-25g) meal, coat my sweet carbs after my main meal, eg. berries with cream and try to be active for at least 10 minutes, even if not able to go for a full on walk, after every meal. I have been doing this for the last 90 days or so, the same time as I started on Libre, and I definitely see bigger spikes when I don't eat salad first or don't get to exercise within an hour of eating.

Although not a diabetic handbook, she does reference diabetes, PCOS and other inflammatory diseases which are widely know to be affected by glucose spikes.

I don't know whether my pretty stable BG is due to following the hacks, or my own self-discipline, maybe just luck of a pancreas still hanging on and playing ball nicely, but I don't have the nerve to stop now My Libre at 90 days is giving me an estimated 5.2%/33mmol/mol HbA1c, and my scans are always at least 0.5 higher than finger pricking.

Would be interested to see how you get on @Garrick

 

[Madisons]

I've also just recently hopped on the "Glucose Goddess" wagon. She (Jesse) has been everywhere including plenty of interview podcasts. I'm trying everything to delay full-blown diabetes (mom is type 1 for over 30 years +)) and my recent A1Cs are always in the pre-diabetic numbers range. There's no harm in having a drink of apple cider vinegar first within 20 minutes of your meal, starting always with a salad or vegetables, before proteins/fats, then the carbs. I don't mind this order at all since I don't really eat much bread or grains to keep till the end anyway. My carbs are mainly in the vegetables loaded with fiber, which i do tend to overeat though. My portion control is so bad. I'm always hungry. And I eat avocados and nuts, all grass-fed clarified butter with low-carb almond psyllium husk buns, etc....I have a serious mental problem when it comes to eating...lots of stress and anxiety and the eating temporarily calms that down.