There is a cure.. how come nobody does this?

Guys, please stop the bickering.

Lamont D said:

It's not ironic nor is it correct what you are saying!

He is advocating with his first few posts that there is a cure and why aren't we using it?

He has admittedly, adjusted his position, but the thread starter is enough to annoy some of the more knowledgeable posters on this forum, who have had great success including yourself in advising how to individually tailor a low carb lifestyle, which is only a part of how they became healthier.

Please read some of the RH forum, you will see what we have to do to avoid being ill!
It may enlighten you to my stance on how best to control my condition!

Weight lifting or any form of strenuous exercise would make me ill. The reason is simple, my liver would supply me with glucose from glucogenesis to offset the rapid rate my heart would race, the excess glucose would offset and trigger an insulin response, it would also be excessive and flood my bloodstream with too much insulin.
The after effects would be horrible, and a hypo in the end!
I don't need or want to go through that again!

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I can't do strenuous exercise either because I get a liver dump. Gentle exercise like walking or dancing, however, improves my bg significantly.

The famine diet is a few years old and helps all sorts of conditions and you can extend your lifestyle. Yeah it says so in the headline so it must be true or it would not have been printed. NB The 24 participants ate carbs . http://www.techtimes.com/articles/36119/20150302/feast-and-famine-diet-could-extend-lifespan.htm

In the mundane world I believe the majority of people subscribe to the theory the body needs nutrients to function so please folks do make sure you have expert nmedical advice you can trust on hand immediately if you intend to deny it the basic quantities of proteins, fats and carbs. IMHO you should also attempt to only purchase your primary food source from a manufacturer you trust has your best interests somewhere above the profit and loss account in its priorities. Yes: even those of you who do not believe water is a basic human right.

I understand the safest way to stop the hunger trigger in the brain is to have the gastric band fitted. It works by disconnecting the cells that produce ghrelin. Again you need medical supervision. As the nice folks on my Desmond course told me the Newcastle diet is a last respnse when all other methods have failed and should only be undertaken under medical supervision. Make sure you follow the money trail in chosing who does the supervising.

Much joy to everyone. I am so delighted Diabetes is cured and it a lifestyle choice. Interesting advice coming on on cures for asthma and cancer too. I am sure it is unconnected though.

@douglas99 does not get the gist of how my condition works and the similarities to T2! And I have helped my wife understand her condition!
But because of my experience and all the battles that I encountered on my journey, the thread should disclude me because I'm not Diabetic.
What is being diabetic?
It is a label.
It helps distinguish conditions of the endocrine system.
But as has been alluded so many times, everyone is different!
A one size fits all, just doesn't fit!

Because you can tolerate most complex carbs, don't exclude those who can't!
Those who can't lift weights, should also be excluded?

Thought this was an open forum?

Yes, back on track.

Reverse type 2, possibly using the Newcastle diet as the op has referred to, and liver dumps are fine, as the body is working normally.
So, for a type 2, who has reversed it, liver dumps, and strenuous exercise are fine again.

In fact I noticed an improvement, as the muscles will take up glucose, so more muscles, and more exercise is beneficial.

As is gentle exercise.

Win-win.

Lamont D said:

@douglas99 does not get the gist of how my condition works and the similarities to T2! And I have helped my wife understand her condition!
But because of my experience and all the battles that I encountered on my journey, the thread should include me because I'm not Diabetic.
What is being diabetic?
It is a label.
It helps distinguish conditions of the endocrine system.
But as has been alluded so many times, everyone is different!
A one size fits all, just doesn't fit!

Because you can tolerate most complex, don't exclude those who can't!
Those who can't lift weight s, should also be excluded?

Thought this was an open forum?

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Nobody is excluded from posting on this forum, or this thread, however, stay on-track, please.

How many people can reverse on this program ? Any body know

loiphamp said:

How many people can reverse on this program ? Any body know

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That's very unclear.

Studies show it to be pretty successful for a set of well-defined T2s, but we are all different and there are so many subsets of T2, with additional factors in play, like PCOS, hypothyroidism and so on.

If you are interested, the only way you would know if you could achieve the Holy Grail, you would have to try it.

I wish you well, if you want to give it a whirl.

Ok, trying to catch up on this thread... so why do we have an OP who started this thread claiming they have found a cure for diabetes when they've said they're not even diabetic? A bit of a worry.... refers to themselves as a lazy bodybuilder. So does that mean the assumption is we're all lazy diabetics and that's why we're not cured? Rather presumptuous to come here in the first place if that is the case. Shame.

Keep on topic folks, please. I hope not to have to ask again.

Mep said:

Ok, trying to catch up on this thread... so why do we have an OP who started this thread claiming they have found a cure for diabetes when they've said they're not even diabetic? A bit of a worry.... refers to themselves as a lazy bodybuilder. So does that mean the assumption is we're all lazy diabetics and that's why we're not cured? Rather presumptuous to come here in the first place if that is the case. Shame.

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Professor Roy Taylor isn't diabetic, but we shouldn't judge him on that.
He seems quite clever really.
So, not really a worry to be honest.

And the Newcastle diet does seem to work, so a very valid thread on this forum.
Hopefully many will be tempted to try it for themselves.

having been type 1 D for over 75% of my life I genuinely feel for all the people with type 2 that struggle to gain that nirvana of optimum BG's and maintaining a comfortable individual lifestyle.

add to that the relentless bashing from the UK media and I genuinely salute the determination shown by all my type 2 brothers and sisters on this forum .

the medical community is recognising that there are many sub variants of type 2 -- and 1 size does not fit all in treating this horrible condition.

I have posted to ask that we just "walk a mile in someone else's shoes" before suggesting that any one way is right for everyone.

edited to add -- this post was not to get "likes or "winners" -- my dad was diagnosed type 2 about 25 years after me being diagnosed type 1 -- and he is the rockingest D on the planet at 82 years old -- eating cauliflower rice now and living it large on a Low carb diet ( struggles to do high fat after a quadruple bypass 5 years ago )

@himtoo where is the applause button? Thanks for that very uplifting post

Djstevesire said:

1500 calories - 700 from exercise = 800 calories.. I lost 5 lbs a week for 4 weeks.
That almost a pound a day.

When from 175 to about 153

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That's great, I'm sure.............. but hardly the ND.... was my point......

Djstevesire said:

Fact finding..
Perhaps more real life insight. Different peoples results ect

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OK if you're fact finding, I'm back in then - have a read of an old thread of mine. Most people assume that consuming fewer calories will result in greater weight loss. This is probably true if it's the first time anyone has tried to lose weight. For those of us who have tried to lose weight for many years this method stops working.

Unlike you, I am T2 and therefore carb intolerant, so any calories from carbs are more of a problem to me than those from fat.

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/my-5-day-dairy-fat-fast.81433/

zand said:

OK if you're fact finding, I'm back in then - have a read of an old thread of mine. Most people assume that consuming fewer calories will result in greater weight loss. This is probably true if it's the first time anyone has tried to lose weight. For those of us who have tried to lose weight for many years this method stops working.

Unlike you, I am T2 and therefore carb intolerant, so any calories from carbs are more of a problem to me than those from fat.

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/my-5-day-dairy-fat-fast.81433/

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What was the update a week later?

I went back to ordinary LCHF and maintained the loss for about 6 months. Then I became ill (a virus) and put it back on again afterwards. Interestingly the only weight that has stayed off permanently is the weight I lost with LCHF, but I am still stuck now and can't lose anymore. My BGs are under control though and that's the main thing.