Type 1s: Lowering carbs to below 200g a day

bridia12

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I cannot get my carbs daily total down below 200gms. Once I had a remarkable 155 [we ate out at a hotel], but it is usually well above 200. I envy the low carbers. My wife does not buy me good GI food like rice lentils beans and nuts. However she showers me with vegetables, potatoes and chips. Plus, recently, scones. Added to witch I have a sweet tooth which I have to cover with extra insulin.

However I do a lot of spinning in the gym, despite my arthritic knees. My weight is reasonable, but my HbA1c is only about 7.4. I have two other "conditions", perhaps because I am a Celt.
 

therower

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@bridia12 . Please don't take this the wrong way, but who has diabetes you or your wife?
Firstly maybe you should discuss with your wife how you can lower your daily carb intake, many people without diabetes fail to understand how it actually works.
Dietary changes are achievable but ultimately it's down to the individual.
;););)
 

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@bridia12 There are lots of members here who reduce their carbs considerably, with excellent success. For further information, I'll tag @daisy1 who will post her information for you. Maybe, print it off and discuss this with your wife to help her understand what you are trying to achieve and why etc.

Maybe take a look at the Low Carb forum to see what food ideas they offer. Of course, if potatoes/chips are put on your place, as therower says, it's your body that has diabetes and not your wife so it's ultimately up to you what you put in your mouth to eat. I feel it's very important, not only for your health but also for your quality of life AND quality of life for your wife too, if she will help you, rather than hinder, to get optimum glucose levels, which will help you have more energy, better life, less longer-term complications etc.

Good luck and well done for coming here. There's so much information, advice and support available from a friendly bunch with lots of experience and knowledge etc :)
 

Jaylee

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My wife understands why I keep my carb count down.. & rolls with it.
In fact discussions over the table reveal she's downloaded a few books on LC (not diabetes specific. Though it mentions it.) thus realising a benefit in stabilising her own weight & metabolism too!

Lol, there's something in it for everyone.. Though to be fair. All I care about is the BS. ;)
 
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I cannot get my carbs daily total down below 200gms.

It's quite easy to get below 200g, I eat around 180g a day which still allows me to eat foods like potato's, pulses, bread and oats, maybe try limiting yourself to 50-60g of carbs per meal and see how you get on, obviously you would need to adjust your insulin accordingly. Good luck.
 

TorqPenderloin

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@bridia12 . Please don't take this the wrong way, but who has diabetes you or your wife?
Firstly maybe you should discuss with your wife how you can lower your daily carb intake, many people without diabetes fail to understand how it actually works.
Dietary changes are achievable but ultimately it's down to the individual.
;););)
This.

A dependent child may not have the ability to choose what they get to eat, but a fully grown adult ultimately has to accept responsibility for their actions and what they put in their body.

A "Sweet Tooth" is nothing more than an addiction to sugar, and it needs to be addressed in the same way you'd quit something more obvious like drinking or smoking.

Having a partner that is supportive is certainly a huge help and I agree that it's not always easy to avoid temptation. However, I hold myself accountable for everything I put in my body. There are no mistakes, accidents, or others to blame.
 

GrantGam

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I, like @noblehead find it very easy to have a moderate daily carb intake <200g (I actually have 130g when I'm away at my work; 2 week trips away from home). When I'm home I eat between 200-300g per day, although I usually sit around 240g. With that allowance, I feel like I can pretty much eat ANYTHING.

For me, I skip breakfast - so that gives me 130g to play with for lunch and dinner, which I think is quite a bit to split between two meals. To put this into layman's terms, this allows (for example) me to eat a cheese and ham sandwich on brown bread for lunch and a fairly hefty pasta dish for dinner if I wanted to... It's really up to you how you weight your meals in terms of carbs and you shouldn't have much of a difficulty in splitting 200g between breakfast lunch and dinner.
 
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I cannot get my carbs daily total down below 200gms. Once I had a remarkable 155 [we ate out at a hotel], but it is usually well above 200. I envy the low carbers. My wife does not buy me good GI food like rice lentils beans and nuts. However she showers me with vegetables, potatoes and chips. Plus, recently, scones. Added to witch I have a sweet tooth which I have to cover with extra insulin.

However I do a lot of spinning in the gym, despite my arthritic knees. My weight is reasonable, but my HbA1c is only about 7.4. I have two other "conditions", perhaps because I am a Celt.

I eat around 180g carbs a day and don't find this too hard to achieve. If I have something like chips I just reduce my portion (unless it's a fish and chip treat). The same with potatoes. I could happily eat 6 roast potatoes but I have less and fill up on veg and meat.

It sounds like you might not be serving your own meals? If that's the case, do - or specify how much you want.
 

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You don't need to get your carbs down below 200 do achieve good control but it will help...

looking at your blood sugar readings should shed some light on the issues needing addressed....
 

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@bridia12 I just noticed you mentioned extra insulin for sweet treats. Does that mean you're on fixed doses of insulin for meals, or are you adjusting your bolus insulin to match the carbs?
 

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@bridia12

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the basic information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to answer.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 220,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.