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Type 2 - anyone else depressed by diagnosis, and feel extreme guilt and shame over food?

Discussion in 'Emotional and Mental Health' started by Adm_Mad, Apr 27, 2019.

  1. Adm_Mad

    Adm_Mad Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    @Diakat I’ve been prescribed a medication for depression and anxiety that shouldn’t cause weight gain, a low dose first to ease me in and she wants me to call her at the end of this week and make an appointment for the week after to keep track of how I’m going.

    Thanks everyone. But can we not have any fat shaming in this thread, thanks.
     
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    lovinglife Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    How do you know the food in the trolley is for them to eat? I too am a lump who has some of those things in my trolley for others in my family - I never touch them
     
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  3. Diakat

    Diakat Type 1 · Moderator
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    @Adm_Mad good to hear that your worries were listened to and needs taken into account.
    Keep in touch and remember to look after yourself.

    We”ll have no fat shaming anywhere on the forum if possible. While we are happy to celebrate weight loss if it comes, improved numbers and health are the main aims.
     
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  4. Jim Lahey

    Jim Lahey I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    @Adm_Mad. Best wishes and good luck on your journey. It gets a lot easier. In fact some might argue it’s not necessarily all that big of a deal. Try not to stress over it. I’m confident that you can overcome it given time. During the meanwhilst you can be fairly sure that anything you want to discuss will be reciprocated here.

    You got this and we got your back. How can you possibly fail?
     
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  5. Guzzler

    Guzzler Type 2 · Expert

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    Please be aware that the terminology we use can affect those who have suffered, sometimes on a daily basis, the growing stigma of obesity and Type 2 Diabetes.

    Remember that up to 20% of those diagnosed with Pre Diabetes or Type 2 Diabetes are not overweight or obese so judging one person by what they have in their trolley is not a good guide you would have to judge everyone's trolley and, to be honest, it is no one's job to judge in the first place. Simply put, what you are saying is that if a slim person has Doritos and chocolate cake in their trolley then that's just fine and dandy but if an overweight person has the same products in their trolley then they should know better. There's no difference, we are all at risk.

    You may find the recent presentations by Gary Taubes interesting, he covers the 'Slim people telling non slim people where they're going wrong' scenario. Please do not become an ex "lump" who has become slim and as smug as the 'I've always been a healthy eater/excerciser' slim person who judges.

    Please see my signature.
     
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  6. ZoomZ

    ZoomZ Type 2 · Member

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    Feel much the same. Dark times. I’m 3 weeks into my diagnosis and working hard to keep low. Or no carb. So hard to get out of bed in the morning and even harder to get out of the house. Luckily I have my own business so don’t need to get in until I’m ready. Told all my employees about my situation and they are coming together to support me just the same as we get together for each other. Best of luck.
     
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    lucylocket61 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    This is a marathon, not a sprint. You need to find a level which works for you. Sometimes compromise is needed between food choices, withing reasonable parameters, and being able to function.

    Low carbing, on this site and elsewhere, is under 130g of carbs a day. Its OK to gradually work down to find your working level, both according to your meter, and your general energy level. We all react differently, our needs are not all the same. Be gentle and kind to yourself on this journey.
     
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    ZoomZ Type 2 · Member

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    Thanks Lucylocket. Appreciate it.
     
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  9. DawnOfTheZed

    DawnOfTheZed · Well-Known Member

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    @ZoomZ and future noobies here

    Here's my understanding. I'd be pleased to be corrected if I've got anything wrong.

    On T2 diagnosis our hba1c is often high. This is glycated haemoglobin (hb). Excess glucose in the blood attached to the hb to make it glycated. This hb is damaged and less efficient at passing oxygen to cells. Unfortunately this damage is permanent for that particular hb. This adds to the general fatigue often felt around first dx because our cells can't use oxygen easily.

    Good news is that our hb is replaced regularly. Depending on age, every 2-3 months. So even if you go low carb immediately, it will take several weeks to improve your hb and feel less tired. So please be kind to yourself and give yourself a chance to improve.

    Best wishes
     
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  10. HSSS

    HSSS Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Can I just check that along with lowering carbs you’ve increased fats? Otherwise you won’t have an energy source. Also made sure you are getting enough fluids and electrolytes eg adding some salt. Carbs hold water. Less carbs in your body means less water. Drinking more water and having fewer processed foods can mean electrolytes such as magnesium and potassium can drop. All of the above can feel pretty awful and if one of them is the cause it’s quite easy and quick to fix. Of course the mental shock of processing diagnosis can take its toll too. Glad you have great support around you.
     
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  11. DawnOfTheZed

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    Ooh thanks! I forgot to mention these important points.
     
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