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What do these BG figures mean?

Resurgam said:
Honestly - there is no need to do a glucose tolerance test - I have never had one - and the normal method of diagnosis for a type two is by Hba1c test anyway.
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I just find it scary having all that sugar in one go... i've probably done it in the form of chocolate or something.. but powdered it is quite scary..
 
Resurgam said:
Honestly - there is no need to do a glucose tolerance test - I have never had one - and the normal method of diagnosis for a type two is by Hba1c test anyway.
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I have had them, my final T2 diagnosis was via a OGT several weeks apart at the pathology shop. They still do them there as well there is a special area where you sit near the toilets.
 
Tipetoo said:
I have had them, my final T2 diagnosis was via a OGT several weeks apart at the pathology shop. They still do them there as well there is a special area where you sit near the toilets.
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How many did you have and what other symptoms or conditions led to your diagnosis?
 
charlie000 said:
How many did you have and what other symptoms or conditions led to your diagnosis?
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I was borderline diabetic for a number of years before I crossed the line into full T2. I used to get a hba1c test every six months, and I have had the the OGT on a few occasions.

Urinating a lot, thirst, work related stress etc.
 
Tipetoo said:
I was borderline diabetic for a number of years before I crossed the line into full T2. I used to get a hba1c test every six months, and I have had the the OGT on a few occasions.

Urinating a lot, thirst, work related stress etc.
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What was your weight and body like and have you tried lchf if so how was it for you?
 
charlie000 said:
What was your weight and body like and have you tried lchf if so how was it for you?
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I weighed 102 kilo's on diagnosis, I sat on 98 kilos for a couple of years. Then I went on Metformin 2½ years ago and started with a moderate lchf way of life and chipped another 3 kilo's off down to 95 kilo's. I have a BMI of 25.2, I did not need to lose much weight either as I was not obese.
 
Tipetoo said:
I weighed 102 kilo's on diagnosis, I sat on 98 kilos for a couple of years. Then I went on Metformin 2½ years ago and started with a moderate lchf way of life and chipped another 3 kilo's off down to 95 kilo's. I have a BMI of 25.2, I did not need to lose much weight either as I was not obese.
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I am Obese. My BMI is 30.5, and I would love to get it in to the 25 figure. I am currently weight training and LCHF. I think it's working... Just want to be normal bodied tbh
 
The load test is a confirmation test. Its result can only be to an extent affected by physical activity level 24hrs before the test.

If still in prediabetic stage, there is still chance to recover. If already cross to type 2, no chance of recovery, the extent of pancreatic cells damage is too much.
 
charlie000 said:
. . . . my GP said my HBA1C is slightly high and to exercise, so I am not a diagnosed diabetic.
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charlie000 said:
They did a full bloods on me and my HBA1C came up with 105, that is all I know and they informed my GP to put me on to Diabetes meds
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From your second statement I would call that being a diagnosed diabetic. Welcome to the club.

charlie000 said:
I take 0 medication.
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Does that mean you haven't seen your GP yet?
 
Mr_Pot said:
I agree, it's appalling, people should have the decency to become dangerously ill before posting.
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Err, the OP has already returned a HbA1c of 105 which indicates a serious medical condition.

I would consider the best approach would be to seek proper medical advice, not sign up to an Internet forum and ask a bunch of people whose only medical training has come from watching YouTube videos and hero worshipping Jason Fung.

To have a HbA1c so high and for nothing to have been properly diagnosed is scandalous.

In order of preference I would have thought the A&E Doctor should have said

1) That result is very high, we need to run some further tests and I will urgently refer you to our Endocrinology Department

2) We need to do some further tests before we let you go to confirm the diagnosis

3) You must see your GP urgently for tests and diagnosis

4) I’m an A&E Doctor so all I know about are sprained ankles and the occasional major trauma so I would say the best thing to do is go home an google what it means

The bottom line is that the OP possibly has a serious medical condition, but without a diagnosis nobody can know what it is, and any advice being offered (in good faith as always) could potentially be quite dangerous.
 
millenium said:
The load test is a confirmation test. Its result can only be to an extent affected by physical activity level 24hrs before the test.

If still in prediabetic stage, there is still chance to recover. If already cross to type 2, no chance of recovery, the extent of pancreatic cells damage is too much.
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Absolute bunk.. please do not repeat this ever..
 
britishpub said:
The bottom line is that the OP possibly has a serious medical condition, but without a diagnosis nobody can know what it is, and any advice being offered (in good faith as always) could potentially be quite dangerous.
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Have you seen the OP's blood sugar levels?
 
bulkbiker said:
Have you seen the OP's blood sugar levels?
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Yep, and I have also seen that the OP had a HbA1c of 105 in February, and has apparently not yet been diagnosed with anything.

I know the NHS is a little stretched at the moment but I would have thought a diagnosis of some sort could have been squeezed out of them.

I’m sure the punchline to this story will be interesting.
 
britishpub said:
I have also seen that the OP had a HbA1c of 105 in February
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We think.. even the OP isn't 100% sure.
Agree that something more should have been done at the time.
But a repeat of 105 mmol/m when the OP's blood sugar is currently between 4 and 6 mmol/l is unlikely surely?
 
charlie000 said:
I just find it scary having all that sugar in one go... i've probably done it in the form of chocolate or something.. but powdered it is quite scary..
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Why would it be scary??

It’s a normal test undertaken 1,000s of times a day by people.

It won’t do anyone any harm, whether they are diabetic or not.
 
bulkbiker said:
But a repeat of 105 mmol/m when the OP's blood sugar is currently between 4 and 6 mmol/l is unlikely surely?
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Well if those finger pricks are correct then the 105 clearly never occurred and the OP is clearly not diabetic.

Wishing yourself to be diabetic seems strange to me, but if the OP wants mine I’ll happily share.
 
bulkbiker said:
We think.. even the OP isn't 100% sure.
Agree that something more should have been done at the time.
But a repeat of 105 mmol/m when the OP's blood sugar is currently between 4 and 6 mmol/l is unlikely surely?
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Went to bed with BG of 4.6 and just woke up it’s 4.4.
 
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