KevinPotts
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I live in Wales and our town has had very little if anything at all from European funding, no jobs have been created since the closure of the areas coalmines so in my opinion being part of Europe does nothing for my town.
It's a worrying time and we can only assume the outcome at the moment, so many lies on both sides it was difficult to know which side to vote for, Scotland want to stay part of Europe and have another referendum to break and Northern Ireland want to reunite with Southern Ireland so Great Britain may just consist of Wales and England which for me would be a sad thing.I am just worried about the net loss to Wales, which will amount to hundreds of millions of pounds and will stop 2 years from when article 50 is eventually triggered.
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It's a worrying time and we can only assume the outcome at the moment, so many lies on both sides it was difficult to know which side to vote for, Scotland want to stay part of Europe and have another referendum to break and Northern Ireland want to reunite with Southern Ireland so Great Britain may just consist of Wales and England which for me would be a sad thing.
We won't know until the Conservative Party vote on it. Probably not until after their conference in October, then potential candidates are whittled down to 2, by their MPs I think, and then the 150,000 party members will vote.Has anyone any idea who would lead the country and take over Cameron's job?
Wales has so much funding from EU, where to in wales?I live in Wales and our town has had very little if anything at all from European funding, no jobs have been created since the closure of the areas coalmines so in my opinion being part of Europe does nothing for my town.
They're working on the heads of the valley's road but we managed with the original for years and years.Wales has so much funding from EU, where to in wales?
they also pay forThey're working on the heads of the valley's road but we managed with the original for years and years.
So the Bank of England just spent £250 billion shoring up the banks due to the brexit. That's day one, and we've not even left yet. You know all those people voted to leave because of all the money it cost it to be in the EU, we just paid the banks 25 years worth of it.
From the guardians comments section:
If Boris Johnson looked downbeat yesterday, that is because he realises that he has lost.
Perhaps many Brexiters do not realise it yet, but they have actually lost, and it is all down to one man: David Cameron.
With one fell swoop yesterday at 9:15 am, Cameron effectively annulled the referendum result, and simultaneously destroyed the political careers of Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and leading Brexiters who cost him so much anguish, not to mention his premiership.
How?
Throughout the campaign, Cameron had repeatedly said that a vote for leave would lead to triggering Article 50 straight away. Whether implicitly or explicitly, the image was clear: he would be giving that notice under Article 50 the morning after a vote to leave. Whether that was scaremongering or not is a bit moot now but, in the midst of the sentimental nautical references of his speech yesterday, he quietly abandoned that position and handed the responsibility over to his successor.
And as the day wore on, the enormity of that step started to sink in: the markets, Sterling, Scotland, the Irish border, the Gibraltar border, the frontier at Calais, the need to continue compliance with all EU regulations for a free market, re-issuing passports, Brits abroad, EU citizens in Britain, the mountain of legistlation to be torn up and rewritten ... the list grew and grew.
The referendum result is not binding. It is advisory. Parliament is not bound to commit itself in that same direction.
The Conservative party election that Cameron triggered will now have one question looming over it: will you, if elected as party leader, trigger the notice under Article 50?
Who will want to have the responsibility of all those ramifications and consequences on his/her head and shoulders?
Boris Johnson knew this yesterday, when he emerged subdued from his home and was even more subdued at the press conference. He has been out-maneouvered and check-mated.
If he runs for leadership of the party, and then fails to follow through on triggering Article 50, then he is finished. If he does not run and effectively abandons the field, then he is finished. If he runs, wins and pulls the UK out of the EU, then it will all be over - Scotland will break away, there will be upheaval in Ireland, a recession ... broken trade agreements. Then he is also finished. Boris Johnson knows all of this. When he acts like the dumb blond it is just that: an act.
The Brexit leaders now have a result that they cannot use. For them, leadership of the Tory party has become a poison chalice.
When Boris Johnson said there was no need to trigger Article 50 straight away, what he really meant to say was "never". When Michael Gove went on and on about "informal negotiations" ... why? why not the formal ones straight away? ... he also meant not triggering the formal departure. They both know what a formal demarche would mean: an irreversible step that neither of them is prepared to take.
All that remains is for someone to have the guts to stand up and say that Brexit is unachievable in reality without an enormous amount of pain and destruction, that cannot be borne. And David Cameron has put the onus of making that statement on the heads of the people who led the Brexit campaign.
Total fiction if you ask me .... it states that Scotland will break away
A lot of Scottish people who voted to remain in the EU say they would choose Westminster rule over EU rule - Nicola is in danger of losing her current powerful position ..... interesting times ahead.
Has anyone any idea who would lead the country and take over Cameron's job?
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I hear there is a coach party having a look round London zoo........................
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