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What does the UK leaving the EU mean for us?

I have a feeling that Marine Le Pen will win the French election next year and then the saga will continue and be very interesting.
 
I worry about May as PM, she's got some insane ideas on security/privacy and is an immigration hard-liner. Gove is like Loki, he just destroy's everything he puts his hand to. Which is worse? Both of them.
 
ChrisSamsDad said:
I worry about May as PM, she's got some insane ideas on security/privacy and is an immigration hard-liner. Gove is like Loki, he just destroy's everything he puts his hand to. Which is worse? Both of them.
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Totally agree about Gove. Not so much about May:)


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ickihun said:
Because they live with the consequences of such expert decisions.
One thing some expects omit is free will and compliance. The human factor, not what a computer would do.
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I am with you on that one & I am guessing that a number of people haven't lived with the consequences that many people have been forced to tolerate (without anybody caring or listening) for many years. Point remains that these 'experts' thought everybody would listen to them & do as they say. Everybody has a right to an opinion & like it or not, the people have spoken. There has been a huge level of arrogance by the government, which has led to no plan being in place for for a leave vote.:(
 
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Yikes....Just signed up as a member of the Conservative party as I want to have a voice in the upcoming leadership contest.


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linnyb said:
I am with you on that one & I am guessing that a number of people haven't lived with the consequences that many people have been forced to tolerate (without anybody caring or listening) for many years. Point remains that these 'experts' thought everybody would listen to them & do as they say. Everybody has a right to an opinion & like it or not, the people have spoken. There has been a huge level of arrogance by the government, which has led to no plan being in place for for a leave vote.:(
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It appears the government had a plan.
They advocated stay, they can't in good conscience support a plan they think will destroy Britain, so they quite rightly have decided to leave it to those who had a vision of Britain out of the EU, and sold that vision to the public. Now it appears the leave advocates had no plan, in spite of their convincing stance.
 
How do you find out about these MP's and their background and their policies? I feel I haven't 'researched' about them and know nothing about them - is it just by googling?
 
Catlady19 said:
I mostly agree. Except I think it would anger 99% of those who voted leave. Also, it is possible that if a Tory government effectively ignors the referendum and doesn't enact article 50, perhaps the UK will vote overwhelmingly Labour in the next election because the Conservatives will get the blame.
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I don't think so, it turns out quite a number of the leavers hadn't even entertained the notion that they might win and just wanted to protest in a vague way, or else had no idea of the consequences, or have looked up their pension forecast since and felt distinctly queasy, or are finding their grandchildren aren't speaking to them any more, or possibly even more - are realising they've been taken for a ride by a bunch of stupid, evil people.
 
SunnyExpat said:
It appears the government had a plan.
They advocated stay, they can't in good conscience support a plan they think will destroy Britain, so they quite rightly have decided to leave it to those who had a vision of Britain out of the EU, and sold that vision to the public. Now it appears the leave advocates had no plan, in spite of their convincing stance.
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As mentioned before, they clearly didn't have a plan, Cameron took us into a referendum without a feasible forward plan. It was his responsibility to plan no matter what the result was.
 
SunnyExpat said:
It appears the government had a plan.
They advocated stay, they can't in good conscience support a plan they think will destroy Britain, so they quite rightly have decided to leave it to those who had a vision of Britain out of the EU, and sold that vision to the public. Now it appears the leave advocates had no plan, in spite of their convincing stance.
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I get that, but they agreed to the referendum & they were voted in by the people at the last election (to serve the people of this country). I personally don't agree at running away as soon as your not happy with a result, that to me isn't much of a plan.:(
 
Catlady19 said:
As mentioned before, they clearly didn't have a plan, Cameron took us into a referendum without a feasible forward plan. It was his responsibility to plan no matter what the result was.
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He had a plan.

Your problem now is no one asked him what it was, and when he told you, you didn't like it.
Maybe you should have asked the brexit team what would happen after, instead of assuming someone else would be doing it?
And you can't really complain, as it seems to be exactly the same plan the Brexit frontman, Boris had.
 
Catlady19 said:
As mentioned before, they clearly didn't have a plan, Cameron took us into a referendum without a feasible forward plan. It was his responsibility to plan no matter what the result was.
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I think he DID have a plan - it was to stay in the EC. It was a great plan - as many people are now realising.

It's very strange thinking blaming him for the leave campaign winning - he was complicit, obviously, the whole thing was an election strategy to stop the more rabid rightwing supporters of the Tories voting UKIP. I think he was probably right there, they would have done so in their droves and they would have had a split parliament, and a referendum anyway.
 
ChrisSamsDad said:
I worry about May as PM, she's got some insane ideas on security/privacy and is an immigration hard-liner. Gove is like Loki, he just destroy's everything he puts his hand to. Which is worse? Both of them.
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Gove and Mrs Gove just plain crackers... May may have something about her... I hope.
 
carina62 said:
How do you find out about these MP's and their background and their policies? I feel I haven't 'researched' about them and know nothing about them - is it just by googling?
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The Guardian online had a brief breakdown.
 
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