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What on earth can I do???

Discussion in 'Type 2 Diabetes' started by tcamper1963, Feb 15, 2020.

  1. tcamper1963

    tcamper1963 · Active Member

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    I eat avocado, feta cheese, yoghurt and use olive oil and coconut oil for cooking ..
     
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    bulkbiker Type 2 · Master

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    Are you avoiding meat for any particular reason?
    None of your reported meals seems to contain any..
     
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    tcamper1963 · Active Member

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    I don't 'enjoy' the fasting part but I can do it, with the mantra of short term pain for long term gain'.

    The keto food I find difficult in terms of not wanting to eat meat, plus i only eat feta cheese, my gallbladder has been removed so I keep fatty foods to a minimum.

    I should look at vegan keto and vege keto as my next fact finding mission...possibly sign up to diet doctor and see how Ai get on with that...???
     
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    tcamper1963 · Active Member

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    Yes...I have just returned from Vietnam and decided to return to vegetarianism after 25 years of being a carnivore!!!
     
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    HSSS Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I don’t fast beyond lasting as long as I can comfortably in the morning. I don’t snack in between meals though so as to avoid continued prompting of insulin. It’s not compulsory. It’s also much easier if you’re eating enough fat between fasts and are full fat adapted.

    You don’t want to eat meat? For moral/ethical reasons or because you think that it’s healthier not to? The latter is simply not true and can be evidenced in here if it helps.

    I have no gallbladder. Many others doing low carb/ keto don’t either. The vast majority of people without gallbladders can eat sufficient fat. We still make the bile just store and deliver it differently. It might well mean increasing fats slowly and evenly across the day though so you can step up bile production to match. Too much too quickly can be ....unpleasant.

    If you already find keto hard then doing it newly vegan will be a seriously uphill battle.
     
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    lucylocket61 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Edited to: ignore me, I misread something.
     
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    lucylocket61 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Getting enough fats is really important. Many on here have no gall bladder, and may be able to suggest ideas for you.
     
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    bulkbiker Type 2 · Master

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    Doubt you were a carnivore for 25 years... you mean an omnivore?
     
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    tcamper1963 · Active Member

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    :bored::bored::bored:
     
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    tcamper1963 · Active Member

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    Yes of course omnivore....the new lingo is Flexitarian!!! Eating meat sometimes.....
     
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    bulkbiker Type 2 · Master

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    Had you been a 25 year carnivore you would likely have been the first ever to develop T2 hence my desire to clarify.
     
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    tcamper1963 · Active Member

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    Thank you for that very useful info
     
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    tcamper1963 · Active Member

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    Yes I was vegan 30 years ago...it was very tough back then...I guess keto vegan/veggie is going to be tough...I still will eat fish...pescatarian? And thankfully I like tofu!
     
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    As I said if you are doing it for supposed health reasons, don’t believe it. There’s a lot of confounded hype from people with vested and mistaken and misleading interests about how meat is damaging to health and the planet.

    pescetarian is doable, fish and eggs and dairy keep a lot of options open though. Just get enough fats in so you aren’t hungry. You’ll be miserable and never stick to anything that leaves you hungry all the time. There’s a vegetarian section of the forum that might help you with ideas.
     
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    lucylocket61 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    How many carbs are you eating a day? Our carb reduction is the single most important thing in keeping our blood sugar levels normal.
     
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    bulkbiker Type 2 · Master

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    You might be interested in Carrie Diulius .. a keto vegan T1

    Avocados and lots of fish should be fine how about dairy, eggs ... they would help too?
     
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    Rachox Type 2 (in remission!) · Moderator
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    Just a quick post from me. I eat 30 - 50g of carbs per day to keep my blood sugar levels under control. I had my gall bladder removed years before my type 2 diagnosis and developed chronic diarrhoea from the constant drip of bile into my guts. Since I went low carb/higher fat my bowels have returned to normal :)
     
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    Resurgam Type 2 (in remission!) · Expert

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    I found that my blood glucose was better eating early and late, the closer to 12 hours apart the better. I do not eat at other times, and usually drink only water - I have coffee with cream once or twice a day, usually when cooking.
    I eat a lot of salad and stir fry or roasted veges, no dense carbs - no legumes other than a small serving of peas or funner/french beans, or bean sprouts
     
  20. tcamper1963

    tcamper1963 · Active Member

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    OK. .. that is LOW carb..I will track my carbs and track my glucosy levels....

    Thank you
     
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