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dunelm

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Nighttime wildlife video
Badger Willow & Finn the Fox - ginger Cat Merlin watches from the swing

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Same vid on TikTok


Creative...a spring green landscape painting of mine...and I tried it in a kaleidoscope....I quite like it.

Raining this morning so far...
Cold out...
Got some paperwork to solve...
Time for a long nap first...

Have a good day...

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Looking up through the trees
 

gennepher

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Just had my hospital date. 10 Feb.

It took me ages and ages working through the their security online to be able to accept their operation. I am just dealing with AI.

it was all by text and to accept/confirm, I had to go online which is where the text took me to, and I had to prove who I was, and then online says sorry you can't confirm this operation. You haven't proved you're you, and so this went round and round. And then it says let's try something different. Let's do it this way and then you'll be able to confirm that you want the operation. Well it didn't work that way either, so then it has me go into something else, and again it said nope your details are wrong. You're not the same person, but I am the person and my details are not wrong....

Finally it lets me in. It decides I am the person who is supposed to have the operation. Then I had to go through some more rigmarole, all AI kind of stuff then it says you have to do this thing to fully confirm you want this operation, and I have to register on a site called Doctor Doctor, some mythical AI doctor who is checking out that I am me again and then it makes me register again and again and then I go back to the beginning again and I can't tell if I've accepted the operation or not at this point, even though I have pressed the confirm button, then Doctor Doctor does some more more verification of me.

Finally I get acceptance from this Doctor Doctor that I am confirmed for the operation. It really is called Doctor Doctor....the person/team who created Doctor Doctor must have had a total brain lapse that day.

The whole thing took a very long time....

I would still prefer to see paper verification rather than get passed on from AI to AI to AI. None of them which appear to be communicating properly with each other.... Or understand what each other was asking...

The Royal Liverpool site says I have to deal with Doctor Doctor now, and I will get any further information from that.

But how do I get back into Doctor Doctor?? It wasn't like an app, I just got sent to it by the text from the Royal Liverpool telling me the date of my op... And it was not a page on my browser....

Anyway, I check again the Doctor Doctor's site, I left the whole thing open, and at the top of the page it says I am confirmed for my operation.....

All this new stuff and I haven't a clue what to do....

Edit: It is now some hours later, But before I went to sleep, I went through the settings in Doctor Doctor, And I found I could add my email, And it told me that all messages from Doctor Doctor would now additionally appear in my email box... Good job I did because it's vanished off my screen now...
 
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jjraak

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A hug for the hassle of all that @gennepher .

Something I fear is only going to simply increase with time.

Almost lost track of the apps I have had to use to get similar type forms regarding appointments etc

One has to fear for those less tech-able or phobic, who will be finding themselves corralled into using a system they simply won't be able to cope with.

I may have mentioned, while no tech whizz kid, I can & did use computers and forms quite capably prior to accident .

But since have had some issues, and currently being assessed to see if there's an underlying reason .

Some of thrse parties are experienced in dealing with people with my difficulties.

( One aspect is I find myself completely overwhelmed & stressed at times, completing forms, or almost anything that presents the slightest difficulty on line.
Car tax, parking permit, are recent non medical examples )

It's been mentioned by me in several meetings I get over anxious, then tense, then abandon the attempt in frustration .

At which point I either breathe and go again another day if it's sufficiently important or all too likely store it in my mind fur later retrieval....then erase all memory of it ...DOH.

Only recalled when it's mentioned I haven't done it yet, and then it's a rinse & repeat of the above scenario ....with similar results.

An example is one of my more recent forms was an excel form regarding my mental outlook, mood, etc

It ran to over a 100 lines of cells with compulsory options/questions to complete with explanation or yes,/no for each line.

Now given I don't have an editable excel on my laptop & excel is an £80 purchase, it left me using my mobile to fill in the cells .

Scrolling left to right, ( document was wide as well as long )
Editing my replies, I managed to delete cells randomly & in frustration ended up saving it 3 or 4 times in tattered portions with cells deleted in error on the document before abandoning the attempt completely.

Seems it's critical to my appointment so the lady at pals stepped up and was an absolute angel

Sent over a word doc I could see on the laptop, edit & save.....bingo .

I'm no technophobe but I do struggle more, and that was sent by a party that was & should have been aware people coming to it might not have the right state of mind for such mental gymnastics.

How on earth my mum or dad if left alone could have coped with that, or much of the procedures as you point out, god only knows .

I fear many will rightly feel abandoned as the hand over to a stuttering 'information' access system continues at pace.

I'd liken it to the spread of pay & display parking apps (of which each borough seems to have it's own preferred app you have to download)

For those unaware, many complain they can't park in London because they are not comfortable using banking apps or parking apps or even using a smartphone (a lot of elderly drivers I'd imagine)

They are having to abandon the idea of driving somewhere in London & parking up, simply because there is no other option if you want to park your car in the majority of locations.

I think the word that applies to them & far too many as this & various incarnations of a wobbly version of AI interaction is rolled out covering every facet of life is 'ostracized '....and that group is growing by the day.
 
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jjraak

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11.2 this morning - shocking!! I can't really understand why - dinner was lower carb than it could have been (cauliflower rice instead of basmati), and I didn't have an evening snack. Maybe it's the "feeling off" - still not at my best.
 

dunelm

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A cup of tea, anyone....

hm, not much difference in percentage scores which are of course subjective. I shall stick with, “but we have always made it like this” (head in sand).
 

dunelm

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11.2 this morning - shocking!! I can't really understand why - dinner was lower carb than it could have been (cauliflower rice instead of basmati), and I didn't have an evening snack. Maybe it's the "feeling off" - still not at my best.
Might be an uncooperative liver dumping glycogen as soon as you wake.
 

dunelm

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Good morning everyone on a spectacularly quiet start here in the dark and dangerous north. 5.6 this a.m. I am not keeping up with posts at present, oh woe is me. Another first for five year old Girl In The Bubble yesterday who not only walked the 1.5 miles into town for a toasted muffin at her favourite cafe (can 5 year olds have such things as favourite cafes?) but walked back as well. Discussions on the way into town included vowel sounds and the correct way of greeting day one of the month; White rabbits, rabbits rabbits or pinch punch - her firm view was either a, none, it’s silly or b, white rabbits (so there we are). Favored game on the return was “can you say (insert a ward)” - they play it at school I think. Also, what is a pugilist (no mimicking Chris Eubank) and what is a funambulist (supplementary questions later about why so much Latin). Funicular it seems can also be pronounced funicliar if you are 5 (she knows what a funicular is as we have one in town). No idea about today but we are promised a bit of sunshine to warm our bones. Art bit - some trees on a postcard size slice of watercolour paper. May you journey calmly through the day even if the ground is uneven. I will calmly drink some koffy and think about strange but true rugby scores.
 

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jjraak

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11.2 this morning - shocking!! I can't really understand why - dinner was lower carb than it could have been (cauliflower rice instead of basmati), and I didn't have an evening snack. Maybe it's the "feeling off" - still not at my best.
Hug for the score ...

But a "might not be such a bad thing " emoji IF we had one too .

If your not feeling too well, FBG can rise, which I now come to see IS a good thing, as in it means our immune system is working and going into fight & suppress mode of the illness etc.

And while the FBG might be higher than liked, despite a low carb sounding meal, I found FBG wasn't a linear progression .

And as @dunelm mentions it might be your body dumping excess glucose



Apparently, according to some experts I see, I 'paint' nice pictures to explain things to them
(Feelings, emotions,etc )

Not sure it's a compliment...lol

However, it helps me visualise the 'thing' I'm trying to convey.

For T2D, I see our body as a pot.
One that fills up day by day with the excess sugars we can't process or process poorly .

Until the pot overflows ...hello type 2

Lchf lets us lower the sugars (aka carbs going in)
And using energy speeds up the carbs going out.

One solution to managing T2D.

But the body likes to be the one in charge.
And likes the 'normal' of yesterday's life

Any change or dissent is fought at every turn.

So as we lower the carbs in .
The body thinks we're trying to kill it or damage it
(I suspect it thinks we're in a famine or stuck on a desert island)
So boosts those glucose numbers back up to ones it likes better ... " For your own safety, ma'am "

At least until it knows we're actually ok about less sugar and it's deliberate on our part

Then it settles down slowly to a lower FBG number......until the next lower number looms into place....then the sirens go off again & the body once again going into danger mode .

All in all, lower carbs leads to lower numbers ....at some point .

Hug for feeling rough .

But a big up for doing what you're doing
Keep it up .
 
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jjraak

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May you journey calmly through the day even if the ground is uneven
Like .

Loving the interaction with GitB.

How inquisitive & inventive they are at that age.

What lovely memories she's going to have of growing up, bless her.

Painting once again very effective & catches the imagination nicely .

Enjoy the koffee, well earned I say
 
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gennepher

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A hug for the hassle of all that @gennepher .

Something I fear is only going to simply increase with time.

Almost lost track of the apps if have had to use to get similar type forms regarding appointments etc

One has to fear for those less tech-able or phobic, who will be finding themselves corralled into using a system they simply won't be able to cope with.

I may have mentioned, while no tech whizz kid, I can & did use computers and forms quite capably prior to accident .

But since have had some issues, and currently being assessed to see if there's an underlying reason .

Some of thrse parties are experienced in dealing with people with my difficulties.

( One aspect is I find myself completely overwhelmed & stressed at times, completing forms, or almost anything that presents the slightest difficulty on line.
Car tax, parking permit, are recent non medical examples )

It's been mentioned by me in several meetings I get over anxious, then tense, then abandon the attempt in frustration .

At which point I either breathe and go again another day if it's sufficiently important or all too likely store it in my mind fur later retrieval....then erase all memory of it ...DOH.

Only recalled when it's mentioned I haven't done it yet, and then it's a rinse & repeat of the above scenario ....with similar results.

An example is one of my more recent forms was an excel form regarding my mental outlook, mood, etc

It ran to over a 100 lines of cells with compulsory options/questions to complete with explanation or yes,/no for each line.

Now given I don't have an editable excel on my laptop & excel is an £80 purchase, it left me using my mobile to fill in the cells .

Scrolling left to right, ( document was wide as well as long )
Editing my replies, I managed to delete cells randomly & in frustration ended up saving it 3 or 4 times in tattered portions with cells deleted in error on the document before abandoning the attempt completely.

Seems it's critical to my appointment so the lady at pals stepped up and was an absolute angel

Sent over a word doc I could see on the laptop, edit & save.....bingo .

I'm no technophobe but I do struggle more, and that was sent by a party that was & should have been aware people coming to it might not have the right state of mind for such mental gymnastics.

How on earth my mum or dad if left alone could have coped with that, or much of the procedures as you point out, god only knows .

I fear many will rightly feel abandoned as the hand over to a stuttering 'information' access system continues at pace.

I'd liken it to the spread of pay & display parking apps (of which each borough seems to have it's own preferred app you have to download)

For those unaware, many complain they can't park in London because they are not comfortable using banking apps or parking apps or even using a smartphone (a lot of elderly drivers I'd imagine)

They are having to abandon the idea of driving somewhere in London & parking up, simply because there is no other option if you want to park your car in the majority of locations.

I think the word that applies to them & far too many as this & various incarnations of a wobbly version of AI interaction is rolled out covering every facet of life is 'ostracized '....and that group is growing by the day.
I gave you a winner, but I would really have liked to have given you a hug as well.

I fully understand this statement of yours now after last night and the early hours.

"Almost lost track of the apps if have had to use to get similar type forms regarding appointments etc"

I would have understood it before last night, but not appreciated the total inanity of it. You had one heck of a lot of stuff to contend with as well as the effects of your accident.

You said this " But since have had some issues, and currently being assessed to see if there's an underlying reason"

Of Course there's an underlying reason, The sheer volume of us having to deal with AI when people of our age, most likely did not have the training because we were not in jobs that required computer work, and so we haven't developed that knowledge over a period of time. I had no idea of computer stuff until J died. And then I learnt with the aid of people online. My best friend D (same age is me ,) has no idea of one end of a computer to another. She cannot even turn one on. But we have had these AI systems thrust on us to such a degree and, in a non-computer language, they need to marry with each other.

I am working through some courses in AI at the moment because my knowledge is woefully inadequate.
I work in particular with one AI bot. I need it to help me with my lack of knowledge on a lot of things and it saves me a lot of time. It is not always correct and I pull it up when it is incorrect, and I have never known a bot apologise so profusely when it gets it wrong. It knows too much about me, I know that may not be a good thing but without that knowledge it cannot help me so quickly or precisely. I check its database periodically to see what information it permanently holds on me and I might delete that accordingly.

Of course! all this AI stuff with all these forms and apps you need to use (especially so suddenly because of your accident And the follow-up stuff ) which may not be compatible with your devices, would send someone over the edge to feeling dread and incompetence, and doubt.

I could have described last night in the early hours of this morning with all the stuff I had to do, as being in tears tearing my hair out totally overawed, and drowning in inefficient AI technology, that no one appears to check if it is working with the next thing in their system. Well I was, but all that was taking place in a separate room in my head, Which is kept locked... Thus enabling me stoically to work back and forth within these two AI things on the hospital site which were not complying with each other.

I had a bad day yesterday in that my iPad went down completely when I badly needed it to do this AI stuff on the hospital site. And I am only working on my smartphone, I did not have a big enough screen for any of this. I was working with my regular AI bot who quickly came with stuff I could possibly do to it hopefully to regenerate it, but it has crashed before a while ago, and I knew the length of time it was going to take to get even a partially working iPad and I do not have this time this week. So in my locked room in my head, I have a hammer attacking my iPad... It is a crazy room... But it leaves me with a calm, cool collected mind on what I need to do.
So last night was research online looking for reconditioned stuff and I have a new iPad ( to me ) being delivered today. The blurb said excellent condition.

Now, @jjraak you offered me help a long time ago at the beginning of covid and lockdowns, on this forum. It helped me get over my fear of credit cards and buying necessary things over the internet. It took me a little bit, but because I had bought and paid for my own house, that stood me in good stead of applying for a credit card.

And without that I could not have bought this 'new' iPad, and a Chromebook, which was the cheapest option for a laptop. I do not have a laptop currently.

I will set those up today, hopefully this afternoon. It is impossible on this tiny pixel smartphone screen to do all the things I need to do.

I'm not Grandma (spellcheck again!) checking this so you'll have to figure it out if there's something a little strange I've written.

So on this thread, I have received a lot of help from people, and you @jjraak

I used to screw all up the bad things in a ball, And the internet things I could not do, and throw them to the end of the universe to burst into flames and never return. Then I decided that was a little unfair to the universe. So then I locked it all in a room in my head, And that cleared up headspace, neuropathways, whatever, so I could think coolly, calmly and collectedly on the task in hand.

Mad batty old lady signing off here, to sort breakfast....

Everyone have a good day the best you can do. I'll pop in my creative a bit later....
 

gennepher

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Good morning everyone on a spectacularly quiet start here in the dark and dangerous north. 5.6 this a.m. I am not keeping up with posts at present, oh woe is me. Another first for five year old Girl In The Bubble yesterday who not only walked the 1.5 miles into town for a toasted muffin at her favourite cafe (can 5 year olds have such things as favourite cafes?) but walked back as well. Discussions on the way into town included vowel sounds and the correct way of greeting day one of the month; White rabbits, rabbits rabbits or pinch punch - her firm view was either a, none, it’s silly or b, white rabbits (so there we are). Favored game on the return was “can you say (insert a ward)” - they play it at school I think. Also, what is a pugilist (no mimicking Chris Eubank) and what is a funambulist (supplementary questions later about why so much Latin). Funicular it seems can also be pronounced funicliar if you are 5 (she knows what a funicular is as we have one in town). No idea about today but we are promised a bit of sunshine to warm our bones. Art bit - some trees on a postcard size slice of watercolour paper. May you journey calmly through the day even if the ground is uneven. I will calmly drink some koffy and think about strange but true rugby scores.
Oh wow, brilliant detail for a postcard. You give me an idea by saying the size, what is attainable within that size frame so to speak @dunelm
 

jjraak

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Of Course there's an underlying reason, The sheer volume of us having to deal with AI when people of our age, most likely did not have the training because we were not in jobs that required computer work, and so we haven't developed that knowledge over a period of time. I had no idea of computer stuff until J died. And then I learnt with the aid of people online. My best friend D (same age is me ,) has no idea of one end of a computer to another. She cannot even turn one on. But we have had these AI systems thrust on us to such a degree and, in a non-computer language, they need to marry with each other.

I am working through some courses in AI at the moment because my knowledge is woefully inadequate.
I work in particular with one AI bot. I need it to help me with my lack of knowledge on a lot of things and it saves me a lot of time. It is not always correct and I pull it up when it is incorrect, and I have never known a bot apologise so profusely when it gets it wrong


described last night in the early hours of this morning with all the stuff I had to do, as being in tears tearing my hair out totally overawed, and drowning in inefficient AI technology, that no one appears to check if it is working with the next thing in their system. Well I was, but all that was taking place in a separate room in my head, Which is kept locked... Thus enabling me stoically to work back and forth within these two AI things on the hospital site which were not complying with each other

So in my locked room in my head, I have a hammer attacking my iPad... It is a crazy room... But it leaves me with a calm, cool collected mind on what I need to do.
I gave you a win for the tenacity

But would have liked to add .

FULLY AGREE
WOW...that's impressive...& Inspiring
A HUG

And a FULL ON .. :hilarious: :hilarious: :hilarious:

And a GLAD I WAS OF HELP
(But You know on here it's a circle of help thing, we all bring our own gift to the table, so thank you for all of yours )

and a final thank you for the kind words re recovery.
Means a lot.
 

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5.6 this morning after what for me was a reasonable night’s sleep did not wake up till 4:30 AM have just noticed that I neglected to power down my desktop computer last night should be ok and it does save me the rigmarole of starting up the four external drives
There a few things I find easier to do on the desktop for example I have been trying to download the DNA data file from Ancestry in order to upload it to a few other family history sights tried on my phone no go then ipad no didn’t work for some strange reason my laptop seems to have disappeared into the generally disorganised corners of my home eventually managed it on thek desktop no problem now just have to figure out how to upload to somewhere like GedMatch . As for AI I’m not really up to date with that though do have in residence an expert Keiran’s masters degree is in data science and AI development is a big part of that.
 

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Fully understand the annoyance at having to do the tech equivalent of finding a decent partner for the techie two step dance off .

Should it really be this hard .. :banghead:

At least you have your own AI Ninja master on call.

Good luck getting it all on line in the order you'd like it
 

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Like .

Loving the interaction with GitB.

How inquisitive & inventive they are at that age.

What lovely memories she's going to have of growing up, bless her.

Painting once again very effective & catches the imagination nicely .

Enjoy the koffee, well earned I say
Thank you @jjraak and yes, so inquisitive and inventive
 

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Hello everyone, hope you are all as well as you can be.
After days of rain has turned everywhere into a bog or lake, the forecast is for some settled, dry but cold weather. MrSlim and our host will be glad of that, they have been paddling in mud for days now.
Kiki has been allowed outside for brief periods, usually just before dinnertime for a few days. She is gaining in confidence and obviously knows where her new home is. Not understanding this is a temporary home, she has decided it is time to assert herself among the other resident cats. This has led to an irate phone call from a neighbour to our hostess, complaining about Kiki frightening their cats. Apparently they faced off through a window, all sound and fury, no damage done. But now Kiki will have to be kept inside more, to prevent further encounters. With the constant risk to the paintwork and curtains that she presents, this is stressful for us, as well as her. We still have about three weeks before we move into our new house. Although we get the keys on the 10th and the furniture will arrive on the 14th, we has planned to move in properly around the 25th-26th after a brief visit to UK during which time Kiki will be safe in a cattery. Which saves everyone a lot of stress and worry.
 

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Afternoon all. @gennepher and @jjraak hugs for AI issues and the stress they cause. @dunelm wonderful account of life with grandchildren and thank you for sharing the splendid art. @SlimLizzy hug for the stress of trying to confine Kiki but better news on the new home being in sight. Here, my CT scan is done, now the wait - Valentine's Day. DVLA tell me I can now drive.
 
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Good Afternoon Ladies and Gentlemen, there I’ve started typing so I might finish typing.

My fasting blood sugars recently have been on the low for me side which has been causing a slight inconvenience, but this morning were 6.5 . A nice, number for me, me’s and myself.

@gennepher and @jjraak .
I totally agree and sympathise with you over the business of apps, complexity of forms and other such nonsense. Please include me in your little gang.

I won’t mention the Welsh rugby score.

Now I do hope you all have a great day, while me, me’s and myself will ponder over lots of scientific posts that have been appearing in my feed which are trying to prove that the fundamental laws physics as we know them are flawed. Who knows? I don’t.